From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Sooup-0000VW-Rr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:52:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC418E0713; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A359AE064F for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgk8 with SMTP id gk8so1294404lbb.40 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:51:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rzdZ4MuMjhrFihzS8ZhnnCE+wPmq6aI6v2vHCiITYpU=; b=AnkadIqsiAkO7KAvZ4Md+T3N91KpkEdr+gIoc58HFtHYtz+A7Sx1u2AKsdCSlevsR6 vjrfn3ScRzF/mRk3zRH2Xr0YqpG9MNSTDVHui2OSnwIXGgdOJij5fUtdgaTIN9B+3NpS aFxZ/IFBFW/sUlYIX+o0qEYywVpu6e1WNJLjhPeWACLqp7Z7lDMnbS49fhNwpFwppNRq 72ucf4RCPZO2/r+tZ4La0bMyJyOtKMt5hlEinc51PoTSXIjtC5l7bvd8JNwNY+w4acTa +XbgsnBycAt5byV9tYEwHm4jvQ9yyDpJbNwFmC/E+bGnF7pPMgdnkQPIo0/U5sc1607X Uc6A== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.131.68 with SMTP id ok4mr47142054lab.47.1341982310650; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yngwin@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.117.40 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:51:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> References: <20120710171800.493a7c4c@pomiocik.lan> <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3L4u28jDmuP1YtOqQElOKTjMZdo Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 18348ac0-35e2-448a-99d6-ddc79ca0ccc0 X-Archives-Hash: 4c3ed4751b13476c1ed05391d97e736f On 11 July 2012 03:23, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny schrieb: >> Hello, all. >> >> Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two >> libudev providers: >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making >> the long story short, I would like to introduce a virtual for libudev >> which would pull in either of those two. >> [...] >> What are you thoughts? > > As discussed on IRC, there is still no consensus for installing the udev > files with systemd, which is the beginning for the block and the > virtual. So we should first sort that point out, before we even start to > think about an ebuild for an udev virtual. > > So for now: A clear no, i am against adding a virtual/libudev ebuild. Me too. When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they promised that udev would continue to be able to be used separately from systemd. We should hold them to that promise. If they break their promise (as it seems they are bent on doing), then we should go ahead with the fork as discussed earlier. I'm sure other distros such as Debian and Slackware would be happy to join us in that effort. --=20 Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin