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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles:
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From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org>
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On 21 April 2013 22:59, Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:53:28 +0800
> Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> > On 19 April 2013 21:30, Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:16:32 +0000 (UTC)
> > > "Ben de Groot (yngwin)" <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Index: package.mask
> > > > ===================================================================
> > > > RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/package.mask,v
> > > > retrieving revision 1.14667
> > > > retrieving revision 1.14668
> > > > diff -u -r1.14667 -r1.14668
> > > > --- package.mask 19 Apr 2013 06:20:50 -0000 1.14667
> > > > +++ package.mask 19 Apr 2013 09:16:32 -0000 1.14668
> > > [...]
> > > > @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@
> > > > # Non-maintainer ebuild with experimental multilib features
> > > > # masked for further testing
> > > > =media-libs/freetype-2.4.11-r2
> > > > +=media-libs/fontconfig-2.10.2-r1
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is there any real reason behind this mask I may have missed ?
> >
> >
> > This ebuild, with multilib features, was committed without my consent,
> > while I am the de facto maintainer of freetype and fontconfig (other
> > devs in fonts herd are inactive). I don't want to deal with bug
> > reports because of this.
>
> Fair enough, but there is a lack of coordination there (who started the
> mess is irrelevant), leaving as only choices: unmask ft/fc or mask a
> good part of the multilib x11 stuff. The current situation is broken.
>
I agree it is broken. I'm trying to do my part for the packages I maintain.
In my opinion all the recent multilib stuff should be masked, but I don't
maintain those other (x11) packages. So you may want to handle it in
a different way.
> I suppose you talked with Michal about this and couldn't reach an
> agreement, like him joining the fonts herd, or at least the mail alias
> to monitor ft/fc bugs.
>
> If you want I can join the fonts herd also, I already have a foot in
> there for some small packages used within texlive anyway.
>
We could certainly use a hand in fonts herd. Most members have
left or are on extended non-active status. It's just lu_zero (and I am
not sure how active he is wrt fonts packages, but it certainly doesn't
cover freetype and fontconfig) and me.
> And I'd rather see this developed in an overlay instead, as I have
> > said before. We also need more consensus on this multilib approach
> > before I am happy to support this.
>
> I believe we reached consensus last time. Also, I believe we are at the
> step "it is mature enough to give it a wide ~arch testing"; otherwise
> we may just repeat multilib-portage history and have it in an overlay
> for several years to never give it wide adoption in the end.
>
Maybe I missed something, but I haven't seen anything like that.
Can you point me to those discussions?
--
Cheers,
Ben | yngwin
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2=
1 April 2013 22:59, Alexis Ballier <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:=
aballier@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">aballier@gentoo.org</a>></span> w=
rote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:53:=
28 +0800<br>
Ben de Groot <<a href=3D"mailto:yngwin@gentoo.org">yngwin@gentoo.org</a>=
> wrote:<br>
<br>
> On 19 April 2013 21:30, Alexis Ballier <<a href=3D"mailto:aballier@=
gentoo.org">aballier@gentoo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:16:32 +0000 (UTC)<br>
> > "Ben de Groot (yngwin)" <<a href=3D"mailto:yngwin@ge=
ntoo.org">yngwin@gentoo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Index: package.mask<br>
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
> > > RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/package.mask,v<br=
>
> > > retrieving revision 1.14667<br>
> > > retrieving revision 1.14668<br>
> > > diff -u -r1.14667 -r1.14668<br>
> > > --- package.mask =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A019 Apr 2013 06:20:50 -0=
000 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.14667<br>
> > > +++ package.mask =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A019 Apr 2013 09:16:32 -0=
000 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.14668<br>
> > [...]<br>
> > > @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@<br>
> > > =C2=A0# Non-maintainer ebuild with experimental multilib fea=
tures<br>
> > > =C2=A0# masked for further testing<br>
> > > =C2=A0=3Dmedia-libs/freetype-2.4.11-r2<br>
> > > +=3Dmedia-libs/fontconfig-2.10.2-r1<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > Is there any real reason behind this mask I may have missed ?<br>
><br>
><br>
> This ebuild, with multilib features, was committed without my consent,=
<br>
> while I am the de facto maintainer of freetype and fontconfig (other<b=
r>
> devs in fonts herd are inactive). I don't want to deal with bug<br=
>
> reports because of this.<br>
<br>
</div>Fair enough, but there is a lack of coordination there (who started t=
he<br>
mess is irrelevant), leaving as only choices: unmask ft/fc or mask a<br>
good part of the multilib x11 stuff. The current situation is broken.<br></=
blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree it is broken. I'm trying to do m=
y part for the packages I maintain.<br></div><div>In my opinion all the rec=
ent multilib stuff should be masked, but I don't<br>
maintain those other (x11) packages. So you may want to handle it in<br>a d=
ifferent way.<br>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I suppose you talked with Michal about this and couldn't reach an<br>
agreement, like him joining the fonts herd, or at least the mail alias<br>
to monitor ft/fc bugs.<br>
<br>
If you want I can join the fonts herd also, I already have a foot in<br>
there for some small packages used within texlive anyway.<br><div class=3D"=
im"></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We could certainly use a hand in=
fonts herd. Most members have<br>left or are on extended non-active status=
. It's just lu_zero (and I am<br>
</div><div>not sure how active he is wrt fonts packages, but it certainly d=
oesn't<br>cover freetype and fontconfig) and me.<br> <br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">
> And I'd rather see this developed in an overlay instead, as I have=
<br>
> said before. We also need more consensus on this multilib approach<br>
> before I am happy to support this.<br>
<br>
</div>I believe we reached consensus last time. Also, I believe we are at t=
he<br>
step "it is mature enough to give it a wide ~arch testing"; other=
wise<br>
we may just repeat multilib-portage history and have it in an overlay<br>
for several years to never give it wide adoption in the end.<span class=3D"=
HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Maybe=
I missed something, but I haven't seen anything like that.<br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra">Can you point me to those discussions?<br clear=3D=
"all">
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>Ben | yngwin<br>=
Gentoo developer<br>Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin
</div></div>
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