From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 15:23:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB9SyzQMBFifvdkPp6jXgQ0we6RvetBSmc-X+o+4EZ5z92UrxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130525184830.5bb25483@gentoo.org>
On 26 May 2013 00:48, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 00:14:36 +0800
> Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Unless I am mistaken, we did NOT agree anywhere that Gentoo
>> maintainers MUST add systemd support when upstream does not ship such
>> files.
>
> We did agree that Gentoo maintainers are not supposed to work on
> enabling systemd support if they don't want to.
OK, that sounds good.
> On the other hand, we
> also agreed that they shouldn't refuse unit files if anyone else
> does the work for them.
Where is this policy documented?
>> [...]
>> And you misunderstood: it is systemd that is aggressively opposed to
>> Gentoo. But apparently that doesn't bother some of our developers and
>> Gentoo is becoming more and more welcoming to it.
>
> Protecting freedom through taking away the freedom of using systemd?
> Makes sense really.
That would be similar to the way the GPL protects software freedom.
Does that not make sense to you either?
But it isn't even like that. I'm not taking away anyone's freedom to
use systemd. You can do so if you wish. You can add unit files to your
system by yourself, or use an overlay. There are various ways this
could be realized even within Gentoo.
But you seem to dismiss all of those, and will only be happy by
forcing maintainers to add support to packages they maintain, even if
they believe it is a bad idea.
--
Cheers,
Ben | yngwin
Gentoo developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-26 7:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-25 16:14 [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Ben de Groot
2013-05-25 16:48 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-25 17:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-25 20:02 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-25 20:40 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-25 20:45 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-25 21:38 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 7:23 ` Ben de Groot [this message]
2013-05-26 7:43 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 10:04 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 15:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26 16:15 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-26 17:14 ` Matt Turner
2013-05-26 17:19 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-26 7:54 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-25 17:00 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-25 17:14 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-26 7:15 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26 7:44 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-26 7:45 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 9:59 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-25 18:13 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-25 19:53 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-25 19:58 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-25 21:55 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-25 19:59 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 7:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 7:22 ` Tiziano Müller
2013-05-26 7:46 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-26 7:49 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 7:00 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26 7:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)) Michał Górny
2013-05-26 8:32 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26 9:49 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 10:12 ` Robert David
2013-05-26 10:31 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 11:12 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 11:31 ` Robert David
2013-05-26 11:47 ` [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 10:23 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 11:15 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 11:59 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 13:35 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-05-26 14:22 ` Luca Barbato
[not found] <51A1A294.3000609@sporkbox.us>
2013-05-26 6:24 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Daniel Campbell
2013-05-26 6:55 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 7:37 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-26 7:56 ` Pacho Ramos
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