From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RKeD8-0003vz-8j for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:50:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C385421C0A6; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490A021C022 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so726373vws.40 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.36.204 with SMTP id s12mr53027vdj.114.1320015003076; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com Received: by 10.52.91.101 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EADCFC0.2030007@gentoo.org> References: <4EADCFC0.2030007@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:50:03 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IN1yqTWMG-fJhhTMd2yA83KtsSs Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Shutdown of berlios From: Alec Warner To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 771161bd-8c43-4520-92cd-7f8065cbac88 X-Archives-Hash: 8186d348cce968b732684838d7b82228 On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Petteri R=C3=A4ty = wrote: > On 29.10.2011 12.39, Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal wrote: > >> >> If the upstream is dead I have no clear idea what to do, but maybe >> infra could set-up something download.gentoo.org where we could keep >> all the files with their sums and gpg sign from us gentoo devs to >> ensure their validity. >> > > The files should stay on our mirrors as long as ebuilds refer to them. > When no ebuilds refer to them do we have any need for the files? > > Regards, > Petteri > > I think the point that is made is that you have a package that has a dead upstream but for some reason we keep it in the tree. In that case the only copy of the src may be on our mirrors. The real answer IMHO is to fork it and put it on some hosting (doesn't need to be Gentoo hosting, code.google.com / github / whatever.) The mirrors are not designed to persist that kind of data; so folks get upset when the only copy of the source is deleted by the mirror service.