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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:46:12 +0100
> Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se> wrote:
>
> > Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > > So, yes, we need more people on pkgcore; no, we can't just leave
> > > Portage behind, as it still is the beating heart of Gentoo for now.
> >
> > I guess the point is that it might continue beating long enough mostly
> > on its own.
>
> How certain are you of this guess? How long is long enough? Mostly?
>
> At the moment, it beats mostly on our efforts to it; and in the near
> future, it'll need to adapt further to newer EAPIs as well as further
> bugs and other complexities in the Portage trees. Otherwise you'll get
> a lot of "we can't continue because they stopped developing Portage".
>
> Hence that's why it comes up every now and then as a subject, hence
> someone finally made the call to reinforcement, ...; so, it won't have
> to continue beating on its own at all.
>
>
As usual, it is nigh impossible to force people to work on a specific
project. I would encourage radhermit to ask for assistance if he thinks he
needs it. dol-sen asked because he is working on a bunch of projects and
knows he cannot maintain portage by himself. Even if the council were to
decree that portage be frozen, I doubt that would actually halt
contributions.

-A



> --
> With kind regards,
>
> Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
> Gentoo Developer
>
> E-mail address  : TomWij@gentoo.org
> GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
> GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2  ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M=
on, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Tom Wijsman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:TomWij@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">TomWij@gentoo.org</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On M=
on, 13 Jan 2014 15:46:12 +0100<br>
Peter Stuge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peter@stuge.se">peter@stuge.se</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Tom Wijsman wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; So, yes, we need more people on pkgcore; no, we can&#39;t just le=
ave<br>
&gt; &gt; Portage behind, as it still is the beating heart of Gentoo for no=
w.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I guess the point is that it might continue beating long enough mostly=
<br>
&gt; on its own.<br>
<br>
</div></div>How certain are you of this guess? How long is long enough? Mos=
tly?<br>
<br>
At the moment, it beats mostly on our efforts to it; and in the near<br>
future, it&#39;ll need to adapt further to newer EAPIs as well as further<b=
r>
bugs and other complexities in the Portage trees. Otherwise you&#39;ll get<=
br>
a lot of &quot;we can&#39;t continue because they stopped developing Portag=
e&quot;.<br>
<br>
Hence that&#39;s why it comes up every now and then as a subject, hence<br>
someone finally made the call to reinforcement, ...; so, it won&#39;t have<=
br>
to continue beating on its own at all.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><=
br></div><div>As usual, it is nigh impossible to force people to work on a =
specific project. I would encourage radhermit to ask for assistance if he t=
hinks he needs it. dol-sen asked because he is working on a bunch of projec=
ts and knows he cannot maintain portage by himself. Even if the council wer=
e to decree that portage be frozen, I doubt that would actually halt contri=
butions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-A</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
--<br>
With kind regards,<br>
<br>
Tom Wijsman (TomWij)<br>
Gentoo Developer<br>
<br>
E-mail address =C2=A0: <a href=3D"mailto:TomWij@gentoo.org">TomWij@gentoo.o=
rg</a><br>
GPG Public Key =C2=A0: 6D34E57D<br>
GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 =C2=A0ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D<b=
r>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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