From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-64300-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F030138247 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA85BE0AFA; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3F89E0AF1 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id ex4so632619wid.11 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:41:44 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=W1qbijomocHUP1PNPy/iY6B5kack6q/K7Z1JcgXXvk8=; b=Dat9XnovcuS8t4tfKWghK6vgnzbN2Vn0YVikdu8zSM2tj3ScrMdt+Y/omsd+9jh1sX YMRVeYuIDi26qUq/DPRLKv99Ah7m9jFPymC2U/xcvAL9SCXpmHUabJcSL00sEcDx2udG HTLEAq9W9Y0Xu5bH5foJScmKlqyaXv5CmjzyDXsX8fAf934Bk1jYWvWpT3JNizvSl7FE V5DUxwVAMHzcU4Hr4FzEs4/m/5aFceYme8O2hkakKtrAlH8U7PPp6EkDgS8HVegq/9Gx kPQyw3d8GiJ/KgeoPAdhdoJFPdN1MtN27bOuSIlgMe67ZTeV5W1s8v/cJs7+UUqxD3Cv pF6A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkpo3DZp1/4hJr8muVpHifOLFi7DB6lJvAIHlnlh6AJxFnkrBrfqdK2kwX3/JpIeZH5veGG Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.76.231 with SMTP id n7mr23151022wjw.16.1389631304004; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:41:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com Received: by 10.216.170.129 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:41:43 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [173.8.165.226] In-Reply-To: <20140113163812.3582b623@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> References: <1388986435.17870.49.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <1389582464.7103.185.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <20140113083917.5427344.53422.41690@pathscale.com> <20140113154202.4a1eca06@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140113144613.19260.qmail@stuge.se> <20140113163812.3582b623@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:41:43 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qb0bjVTgs9VpJfZl42KLOLHDJUI Message-ID: <CAAr7Pr_aMJF4OuVz+fTSrkudW1cCxzL-WanzsDs10+2sn5o8HA@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage team, Zac's development break and stepping down as lead From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> Cc: Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0d2dc3e89d304efdcc080 X-Archives-Salt: 1207c03a-85f9-4dd7-a633-92c1f0dbd8b2 X-Archives-Hash: aba350ab453239dbe0e9e8c6b5ed5aad --047d7bf0d2dc3e89d304efdcc080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:46:12 +0100 > Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se> wrote: > > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > So, yes, we need more people on pkgcore; no, we can't just leave > > > Portage behind, as it still is the beating heart of Gentoo for now. > > > > I guess the point is that it might continue beating long enough mostly > > on its own. > > How certain are you of this guess? How long is long enough? Mostly? > > At the moment, it beats mostly on our efforts to it; and in the near > future, it'll need to adapt further to newer EAPIs as well as further > bugs and other complexities in the Portage trees. Otherwise you'll get > a lot of "we can't continue because they stopped developing Portage". > > Hence that's why it comes up every now and then as a subject, hence > someone finally made the call to reinforcement, ...; so, it won't have > to continue beating on its own at all. > > As usual, it is nigh impossible to force people to work on a specific project. I would encourage radhermit to ask for assistance if he thinks he needs it. dol-sen asked because he is working on a bunch of projects and knows he cannot maintain portage by himself. Even if the council were to decree that portage be frozen, I doubt that would actually halt contributions. -A > -- > With kind regards, > > Tom Wijsman (TomWij) > Gentoo Developer > > E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org > GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D > GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D > --047d7bf0d2dc3e89d304efdcc080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M= on, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Tom Wijsman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m= ailto:TomWij@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">TomWij@gentoo.org</a>></span>= wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On M= on, 13 Jan 2014 15:46:12 +0100<br> Peter Stuge <<a href=3D"mailto:peter@stuge.se">peter@stuge.se</a>> wr= ote:<br> <br> > Tom Wijsman wrote:<br> > > So, yes, we need more people on pkgcore; no, we can't just le= ave<br> > > Portage behind, as it still is the beating heart of Gentoo for no= w.<br> ><br> > I guess the point is that it might continue beating long enough mostly= <br> > on its own.<br> <br> </div></div>How certain are you of this guess? How long is long enough? Mos= tly?<br> <br> At the moment, it beats mostly on our efforts to it; and in the near<br> future, it'll need to adapt further to newer EAPIs as well as further<b= r> bugs and other complexities in the Portage trees. Otherwise you'll get<= br> a lot of "we can't continue because they stopped developing Portag= e".<br> <br> Hence that's why it comes up every now and then as a subject, hence<br> someone finally made the call to reinforcement, ...; so, it won't have<= br> to continue beating on its own at all.<br> <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><= br></div><div>As usual, it is nigh impossible to force people to work on a = specific project. I would encourage radhermit to ask for assistance if he t= hinks he needs it. dol-sen asked because he is working on a bunch of projec= ts and knows he cannot maintain portage by himself. Even if the council wer= e to decree that portage be frozen, I doubt that would actually halt contri= butions.</div> <div><br></div><div>-A</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<br></div><blockquote= class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli= d;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"> --<br> With kind regards,<br> <br> Tom Wijsman (TomWij)<br> Gentoo Developer<br> <br> E-mail address =C2=A0: <a href=3D"mailto:TomWij@gentoo.org">TomWij@gentoo.o= rg</a><br> GPG Public Key =C2=A0: 6D34E57D<br> GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 =C2=A0ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D<b= r> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --047d7bf0d2dc3e89d304efdcc080--