From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RlNAv-0000CH-7S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:06:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 341BD21C04B; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E7221C03F for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdt10 with SMTP id dt10so2151398wgb.10 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:06:11 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.93.132 with SMTP id cu4mr1418971wib.9.1326384371630; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:06:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com Received: by 10.227.199.5 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:06:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120112162905.59242180@sera-17.lan> References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> <20120106175049.GA27854@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120106192550.7ed4cbd9@pomiocik.lan> <20120106184127.GE27854@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120106200547.1cc4a5a3@pomiocik.lan> <20120112162905.59242180@sera-17.lan> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:06:11 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KGF5jNJA8-hqy9W6aMDf03ArCOI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr From: Alec Warner To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a0140c44-0aaa-42d6-ad54-99041a3c869d X-Archives-Hash: 8902a53e515d29f620774b17f9c5b4be On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:05:47 +0100 > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > [snip] > >> >> You should consider taking like 1 or 2 hours of your precious time to >> read about the use and meaning of various directories in the >> filesystem. >> > > The FHS gives different meaning to directories than the systemd folks > like it to be. Yes, it's unpleasant how far that sort of breakage > already progressed. However, by definition software not adhering to the > current standard is what is broken and not the other way around. We have never aimed to be FHS compliant, so citing the standard is not likely to persuade some. We follow them where we think they make sense and ignore the parts we think are stupid. Just like PMS :) -A > > There is nothing wrong with changing an old standard if there is a need, > though until a new standard is approved / accepted there is no ground > to change anything and breaking the current standard on purpose is plain > stupid. > > Btw, do you happen to know what is going on with FHS-3.0 and why > there are delays. Wasn't it supposed to be announced in summer 2011? > > Then do you happen to know a technical paper which actually discuss the > advantage / disadvantages of changing the current standard. All I have > read on this topic so far looks like propaganda material only or lists > non arguments like "less top level directories".