From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-74182-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1D258973 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A87A21C01F; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f169.google.com (mail-io0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2B66E084D for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q21so102352133iod.0 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:09:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scriptkitty-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=D/G1eYbqKnA3ZV/1sVpqwIGFC7oMim1uSHliA1a/SZ8=; b=rY343BcufUgKWlfqduUMP9Y2P60fiaCLyU7vFp852o68+rNxhiZ2wBGlJp/hug1DXY k/FciXjcvqP3LDTtgLgZrJ7ib23pWi4O3qOEx6SpA08azaiaZkqIbnQqzEFfj8oFV8AM FfAV7NSAhjpxrO4MHwYpgXUG6wNax7HsvTt2wPM/vlVpWpYuel6GorT5mArwyR8lBUBs pDLIuZFiNw4O237FoDEu6/GLRY7a/ZgdA/8bs8T8Wm5zWymm1gvWiXrdYlqdEz7JVPjE tjcaEf864E5JLy1gm1Mo2E+1HLJoHLCsqW8AI0DsDWt6wv2GKjGV3Xlt3xJYiFe/trsK 0bqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D/G1eYbqKnA3ZV/1sVpqwIGFC7oMim1uSHliA1a/SZ8=; b=AgD4ozr6QLxXzRF6z/a/QCNn1hBajnKlOIoxVsR0f+Xg0Q0viAzvGLjmYD9F3VB5AN nYub8pRf9XLbKOsyPEAovDavLr4AKXc0+TwkMORCJlRduFkZW3CIuLp03lZmS8H+r78+ YscDHB1LsmP6LDC1RP/fDQg5zWPMIfBEWDACa1rB1ETy6uwZ+oQGpWcgUBdAmeUq8ypj WnQbuC9atKetxe2uDni+s0ZGHYiBVEuFnaQ3kNvyIxnJTkHHsllfND8PrQj9Jek9zU+R F0UG7kQqOLR5Pu16+EruBr1SuUQxI/u5ylBEiSMw7xWeGwg38BHOPmkCh00g/eSEO17L Jsgg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQaMssqTuvh9wumqbdPp0tVpNy3ZdYiaO6mf+1Y2Ah8HVBpqrgLgD6gdIT90xXszbwxV3WbCDU0gT1uZw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.157.138 with SMTP id g132mr5886432ioe.177.1453500586722; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:09:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com Received: by 10.79.85.137 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:09:46 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2620:0:1000:3001:a523:9111:aef4:ca05] In-Reply-To: <20160122213346.GU14840@vapier.lan> References: <20160121165358.GA18561@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <T5C8F71qRGt1A5lfLk+i8m@iqEBuidLDq3V+Mq1yqhr0> <20160121184520.6d472d7a.mgorny@gentoo.org> <20160122120407.428ef591@gentoo.org> <20160122213346.GU14840@vapier.lan> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:09:46 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NtEj_d_1i-8TF2oUznXAc35V8MY Message-ID: <CAAr7Pr99a+XseGuBQiKFQJeaMV2Ej-2Pq9YYCqEuAcZ3aM+5vQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141be042722420529f37a6c X-Archives-Salt: 8a6a98c8-8bbd-4ebd-b935-78484380b0b8 X-Archives-Hash: 87b287296d86f433430df36a5cb40eb9 --001a1141be042722420529f37a6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 22 Jan 2016 12:04, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:45:20 +0100 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > If I see a package that clearly doesn't build or otherwise simply > > > doesn't work, could not have worked for past 3 years, are you forcing > > > me to waste a time reporting a bug to no maintainer who could fix it? > > > > sure, don't waste your time and just delete it so that nobody can track > > why it was removed or even attempt to fix it. > > > > > Because to me, the lack of any open bugs is a clear evidence that > > > the package is not only unmaintained, but also unused. > > > > lack of open bug means there is no known bug; anything else is pure > > supposition > > this. if anything, it sounds like i need to keep open a trivial bug > for a package to keep people from wrongly proactively tree cleaning. > > the # of users of a package is irrelevant. if there are (real i.e. not > "typo in message" bugs) open, then that's a diff story. > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Treecleaner/Policy I tried to write the policy as clearly as possible, feel free to request modifications. -A > -mike > --001a1141be042722420529f37a6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo= te">On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Mike Frysinger <span dir=3D"ltr"><<= a href=3D"mailto:vapier@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">vapier@gentoo.org</a>= ></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px= 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bor= der-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">On 22 Jan 2016 12:04, Alexis Ballier= wrote:<br> <span class=3D"">> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:45:20 +0100 Micha=C5=82 G=C3= =B3rny wrote:<br> > > If I see a package that clearly doesn't build or otherwise si= mply<br> > > doesn't work, could not have worked for past 3 years, are you= forcing<br> > > me to waste a time reporting a bug to no maintainer who could fix= it?<br> ><br> > sure, don't waste your time and just delete it so that nobody can = track<br> > why it was removed or even attempt to fix it.<br> ><br> > > Because to me, the lack of any open bugs is a clear evidence that= <br> > > the package is not only unmaintained, but also unused.<br> ><br> > lack of open bug means there is no known bug; anything else is pure<br= > > supposition<br> <br> </span>this.=C2=A0 if anything, it sounds like i need to keep open a trivia= l bug<br> for a package to keep people from wrongly proactively tree cleaning.<br> <br> the # of users of a package is irrelevant.=C2=A0 if there are (real i.e. no= t<br> "typo in message" bugs) open, then that's a diff story.<br></= blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Proj= ect:Treecleaner/Policy">https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Treecleaner/Po= licy</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I tried to write the policy as clearl= y as possible, feel free to request modifications.</div><div><br></div><div= >-A</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:r= gb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888">-mike<br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --001a1141be042722420529f37a6c--