From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E72B138334 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 15:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69016E090F; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 15:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 238FAE08FA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 15:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id q10so37590486iop.2 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 08:46:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gentoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=icWX7xQspMNMxFrGAlFNs6pvVO8JP9NR+dWuaQG2dss=; b=Fo2ceims/CsSrM8YnTFZ0j5RZxKKFOhTq+KMdhh0WWWhtX8vZ1Fg8Jf0ydneOGgx4A qPqBlBpHPEIgBx2Z5yV0j/NANO5F+7pwDMGYOJY2yKjA1c3j969hpXrGbQid97E/1lkd 4QJUjqXep9WFTT7U8zTpdLX4MTjYxZfoulS+aaSsXsd3QsKKyDpuO1R9ucHVzq2pqGfd 0KzOjuCHg0M8IvBmJA0TM0Jg0THkEi7Mq2fvcFdebLspXzR5TpS0FA41+AElSGrgQZbr 1au9EGeN4b7DZO8wGw3EBki2keFBVFPTunCpsuI6ZXYrLGkQWGhHeewI4lA0Y705su6Z Au+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=icWX7xQspMNMxFrGAlFNs6pvVO8JP9NR+dWuaQG2dss=; b=hdcQ0wijGE/dzMMr/EsolN1MjD4kLPuE0E5e4z0UR6Yf8hHTbVNiWexmj7QIzZg0Jh FeRNXoDo9fcxCrn+0BucEVioXINrsE3ClE1fHafA1zZEGO3iRys7JEm8u+POizVPyPZb XljWAzfoDo3B0Xl1zdVudT1gaboyU09Y8dfUysMfQetmqZm41zQ1Mfh1IXbHF2DC7VGH C84YZrgpvSW3TAGvOaXvy9uRxcA3nTNhDIY7R6ab+bCNZSUWmrLyNndyghPGQ8N5RzvE NcrBABRAEdF8DmY7aIx1XVjBWE1ueZLvbUeW7atrX+MLIdj8iUDG/KhU59x6ob2mIyBC 4JGA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX224yCkIbsOp1hfqzhGSXCtbnh2rWLAP+d4kkOXVzJWO9IeGZi KRM++edRKNqzeT8lmA9gt00gzJtS+E0H80O7002QeVAJ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzwzP6JWw9IiwRTjz01HfpIpKHBsP3+Fo4JMG/LO93lGHrPp3fi6SO3pMgnMKmI0cexwwaWvlDQhThFez0XSVU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:c8d2:: with SMTP id c18mr22907647ilq.4.1570549611919; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190926082842.16d58bdd@gentoo.org> <44e7f975-7844-45c6-4d33-15c688b7a5e0@gentoo.org> <4170258.EnrzZEfU2y@porto> <4e4819ce-84e5-8730-da43-177e1219b45e@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4e4819ce-84e5-8730-da43-177e1219b45e@gentoo.org> From: Alec Warner Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 08:46:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stable-bot is down. Temporary? Forever? Can we have a contacts page for it? To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b8927005946813ad" X-Archives-Salt: 3d691554-86fe-4a86-9d98-14d1b338fc9d X-Archives-Hash: 7adcfada75da3b6b28da6b1016557255 --000000000000b8927005946813ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:57 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 10/8/19 7:21 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > In any case, since many people *do* rely on it, maybe we should declare > it > > official? [+] > > > > And, if that's OK with both of you, move it onto infra hardware? > > > > Happy to sponsor both for the next council meeting agenda. > > > > > > [+] At some point the one remaining whiner doesnt count anymore. > > > > In the past, infra has been understandably hesitant to take on new > services due to staffing issues. > > Additionally, I understand that the current infra design does not easily > allow granular access control, preventing non-infra members from easily > performing maintenance on individual services. > > Has this situation changed? I doubt infra want to take responsibility > for the bot, and I don't fancy the hassle of trying to find people to > poke things on my behalf. > Things have not changed. We don't need to run the bot, we just need some clearer contact info for it IMHO. I don't think the reliability of the bot is really that different from official infra services, but it was unclear who owned it and so there was confusion; and I think the confusion is the key thing we are looking to resolve here. -A --000000000000b8927005946813ad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:57 AM Michael Pa= limaka <kensington@gentoo.org> wrote:
On 10/8/19 7:21 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> In any case, since many people *do* rely on it, maybe we should declar= e it
> official? [+]
>
> And, if that's OK with both of you, move it onto infra hardware? >
> Happy to sponsor both for the next council meeting agenda.
>
>
> [+] At some point the one remaining whiner doesnt count anymore.
>

In the past, infra has been understandably hesitant to take on new
services due to staffing issues.

Additionally, I understand that the current infra design does not easily allow granular access control, preventing non-infra members from easily performing maintenance on individual services.

Has this situation changed? I doubt infra want to take responsibility
for the bot, and I don't fancy the hassle of trying to find people to <= br> poke things on my behalf.


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