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boundary="0000000000001962a90570bb9d5e" X-Archives-Salt: b4b1dd34-e77e-47f4-80cc-faa56ceeffdd X-Archives-Hash: 4f23191ce9ba3711ac53131c01176ce3 --0000000000001962a90570bb9d5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:36 AM Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I do think it would be a wise idea to "grandfather" the current layout > > for awhile. > > > > I don't see why we would ever stop supporting it, at least in general. > Maybe if some day somebody had a solution for a read-only /usr with > signature checking that might require portage to be mounted elsewhere, > but I don't ever see that becoming the default. > > Portage just looks for the repository where you tell it to. If you > tell it that the repository is in /var, it will use it. If you put it > in /tmp, that's fine too. > +1 to this. The challenge (in moving it) is that its been "/usr/portage" for a long time so many tools may have hard coded this location; as opposed to querying portage for where the tree is, e.g.: PORTDIR=$(portageq get_repo_path / gentoo) -A > This is just about the default, which should follow FHS. The case of > separate mounts is exactly why /usr is a bad spot - the access > patterns for something like the repository have far more in common > with /var than /usr. > -- > Rich > > --0000000000001962a90570bb9d5e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo= te">On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Rich Freeman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a= href=3D"mailto:rich0@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">rich0@gentoo.org</a>>= ;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Wed, = Jul 11, 2018 at 11:36 AM Raymond Jennings <<a href=3D"mailto:shentino@gm= ail.com">shentino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > I do think it would be a wise idea to "grandfather" the curr= ent layout<br> > for awhile.<br> ><br> <br> </span>I don't see why we would ever stop supporting it, at least in ge= neral.<br> Maybe if some day somebody had a solution for a read-only /usr with<br> signature checking that might require portage to be mounted elsewhere,<br> but I don't ever see that becoming the default.<br> <br> Portage just looks for the repository where you tell it to.=C2=A0 If you<br= > tell it that the repository is in /var, it will use it.=C2=A0 If you put it= <br> in /tmp, that's fine too.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 to thi= s. The challenge (in moving it) is that its been "/usr/portage" f= or a long time so many tools</div><div>may have hard coded this location; a= s opposed to querying portage for where the tree is, e.g.:</div><div><br></= div><div>PORTDIR=3D$(portageq get_repo_path / gentoo)</div><div><br></div><= div>-A</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> This is just about the default, which should follow FHS.=C2=A0 The case of<= br> separate mounts is exactly why /usr is a bad spot - the access<br> patterns for something like the repository have far more in common<br> with /var than /usr.=C2=A0<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote= " style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><= span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br> Rich<br> <br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --0000000000001962a90570bb9d5e--