From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029C81385B0 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 03:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3586114245; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 03:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 124C6E0833 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 03:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbfr1 with SMTP id fr1so88262322obb.1 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:21:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=U0l97zRoUgoqyUB3A7KsRGfmZ+Qe3rDfY1YCLU4A5go=; b=i/yJEJyL/jyrkVmGGG/2iuhA9OPWwxBW3gbMsOCGY7vG8iMSka3vhqJxqzwuly/DRv /yyQQcNClH3V5Q+/ZhOz7QqOUZIGPJH5wT11WGQWWVflGT3bRbnyzZPfqDS0tdEvbQBA 2047BW/ZiYeH2GuVducnfosPcAHNBfv5r6GIDlxVyjH9qx4UeD9BBuZ+kUY6+GogwP1t FumjdOyAMKwSj4GR7AMZkGgTZMPKGoTXkZQE/ulSH1+lzv3fmSop5mm0x4ykU77p4syF dyB+4ch/QyKbJT2j89CxQMpdyYEU8npwwBq7CSwaNvW/OwNcKexlM9aUhX63nhNm12+i DJJQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.78.230 with SMTP id e6mr47945613oex.24.1439695288122; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.65.196 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:21:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150813183719.085af89b@googlemail.com> References: <55C7AC24.2040503@gentoo.org> <55C9CA32.3060300@gentoo.org> <55C9F189.10102@gentoo.org> <20150812052120.5a83c3b1@googlemail.com> <55CB4CB0.8050208@gentoo.org> <20150812143819.GA25080@linux1> <55CBE88A.4060907@gentoo.org> <20150813183719.085af89b@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:21:27 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies From: Kent Fredric To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 373d3f18-707c-4cef-9249-8fe45bb7b1ea X-Archives-Hash: 5558dcc051e7c8e1ea3f22b5974c2ce7 On 14 August 2015 at 05:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Uh, the point of the 'pretend' bit in the name is that it *is* run when > you do emerge -p. It is strange really. It does them *after* prompting "yes" with --ask Whats the point of that? Granted they are very slow for me now with the KDE5 stuff having virtually every package doing pkg_pretend, so I see why avoiding them before the --ask might be beneficial. But I'm not sure how beneficial it is to give me a merge plan, ask me if I want to do it or not .... and then find out some use flags are unworkable *after* pressing yes. ( I recently filed bugs on quite a few python packages because they were being resolved in pkg_pretend when they could have been resolved in REQUIRED_USE ) Maybe if we could fix *this* wart about pkg_pretend, it would be more viable as a competitor to REQUIRED_USE ? -- Kent KENTNL - https://metacpan.org/author/KENTNL