From: Kent Fredric <kentfredric@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 22:08:49 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAATnKFASHL3Qe5wAksFeZ-0h6Jw8e3vUTPxw8S_KnzEJbsgD8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On 24 May 2012 08:32, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Sure. The slow commit rate encourages careful deliberation before
> hitting the enter key, which therefore improves quality.
>
> Then, if you do make a mistake the slow commit rate means that fixing
> that mistake can take a long time, which increases the amount of pain
> our end-users run into due to the mistake, which leads to lots of
> flame wars on -dev. That means that the guy who made the mistake is
> subjected to more public ridicule, and is less likely to do it again,
> That improves quality too.
>
> Since cvs doesn't tie together tree-wide changes in a nice way or
> allow them to be transactionally completed, individual package
> maintainers don't need to be as concerned with the big picture view.
> Now as the maintainer of libfoo the fact that somebody changed my
> ebuild without making a corresponding change in some profile is
> completely hidden from me, and I can go to sleep peacefully without
> realizing that my users are all going to have horribly broken systems
> in the morning. Blissful ignorance of end-user suffering improves
> developer morale, and helps get rid of pesky users at the same time.
>
> cvs also makes more more aware of what is going on around me. Anytime
> I want to work on something in parallel with the main development
> branch I get to manually merge changes in, which keeps me aware of my
> place in the world. That means that I'm less likely to build nice new
> features, which means fewer bugs, which improves quality, and may even
> drive away users as an added bonus!
>
> See, cvs is really the wave of the future!
>
> Rich
>
<meta name="sarcasm" value="on" />
This CVS stuff sounds a bit too uppity and unstable to me, sounds like
we should go back to the tried and true code collaboration by
date-stamped tarballs of the tree which are centralised once a week to
a master tarball.
--
Kent
perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"
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2012-05-23 12:42 [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver Michael Weber
2012-05-23 12:54 ` Johannes Huber
2012-05-23 13:14 ` Ian Whyman
2012-05-23 13:31 ` Matthew Thode
2012-05-23 14:39 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 14:43 ` Anthony G. Basile
2012-05-23 16:33 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-23 13:25 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-05-23 13:28 ` Aaron W. Swenson
2012-05-23 13:34 ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-23 14:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2012-05-23 14:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " justin
2012-05-23 16:32 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2012-05-23 16:33 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-23 16:42 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-05-23 16:45 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-24 19:51 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-05-23 16:47 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-05-23 16:58 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 17:19 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-05-23 17:22 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 17:32 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-23 17:35 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-24 10:02 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 10:16 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 17:38 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-05-23 17:38 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-05-23 18:37 ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2012-05-23 19:37 ` Arun Raghavan
2012-05-23 19:40 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2012-05-23 19:47 ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-23 19:51 ` hasufell
2012-05-23 20:00 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2012-05-23 20:32 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-24 10:08 ` Kent Fredric [this message]
2012-05-24 6:34 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-05-23 20:05 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 20:25 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-23 20:37 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-23 20:55 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-24 4:49 ` Matt Turner
2012-05-23 16:58 ` Justin
2012-05-23 20:34 ` Michael Weber
2012-05-23 16:59 ` Matt Turner
2012-05-23 17:06 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 20:39 ` Michael Weber
2012-05-23 17:09 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-23 21:14 ` Dan Douglas
2012-05-23 21:48 ` Michael Weber
2012-05-24 10:17 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 14:40 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-24 15:02 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-05-24 15:32 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-25 1:21 ` Alec Warner
2012-05-25 1:32 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-25 6:12 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-05-25 6:47 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-25 11:07 ` Alec Warner
2012-05-24 15:40 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-24 17:13 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 17:52 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-05-24 18:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-24 18:17 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 18:33 ` Markos Chandras
2012-05-24 18:37 ` Dan Douglas
[not found] ` <4FBE8223.2010406@gentoo.org>
2012-05-24 19:57 ` Dan Douglas
2012-05-24 21:00 ` [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - Handling Pull Requests (Was: clean cut or git-cvsserver) Aaron W. Swenson
2012-05-24 21:14 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-24 21:20 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 21:27 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-24 21:16 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 22:01 ` Dan Douglas
2012-05-25 0:58 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-25 1:40 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-05-24 5:56 ` [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver Michał Górny
2012-05-24 6:04 ` Dan Douglas
2012-05-24 6:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-05-24 6:51 ` Dan Douglas
2012-05-24 9:16 ` Vítor Brandão
2012-05-24 11:43 ` Duncan
2012-05-24 12:05 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-05-24 13:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-24 13:37 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-24 13:51 ` Michael Weber
2012-05-24 1:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Wright
2012-05-24 16:17 ` Ultrabug
2012-05-26 16:18 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-30 1:55 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-30 9:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-05-30 10:16 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-05-30 11:32 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-30 13:06 ` Duncan
2012-05-30 18:33 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-05-30 20:31 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-05-31 12:04 ` Aaron W. Swenson
2012-05-31 12:16 ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-31 12:21 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-05-31 16:50 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-06-01 20:49 ` Michael Weber
2012-06-02 0:52 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-02 4:04 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-06-02 10:59 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-02 12:03 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-06-02 14:19 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-31 16:49 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-05-31 17:48 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-31 19:13 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-05-31 19:29 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-31 19:54 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-31 20:26 ` Duncan
2012-05-31 20:57 ` William Hubbs
2012-06-01 12:57 ` Duncan
2012-06-01 13:25 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-06-01 15:08 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-06-01 15:39 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-01 15:56 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 16:18 ` W. Trevor King
2012-06-01 15:45 ` William Hubbs
2012-06-01 16:33 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-06-01 16:55 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 18:28 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-01 19:22 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-31 22:04 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-31 19:18 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-31 19:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-31 22:04 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-31 22:28 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-01 3:59 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-02 0:14 ` James Cloos
2012-05-31 19:33 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-31 19:52 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-05-31 21:52 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 2:49 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-01 4:55 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 10:54 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-01 11:23 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 11:44 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-01 12:42 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-01 12:48 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-06-01 14:37 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 15:12 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-06-01 15:25 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 15:36 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-06-01 15:53 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-01 16:12 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-06-01 16:14 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 16:34 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-06-01 16:56 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 17:36 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-06-01 15:39 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-01 15:28 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-31 19:58 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-31 20:09 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-31 20:27 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-06-01 4:05 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-01 10:49 ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-31 21:06 ` William Hubbs
2012-05-31 22:00 ` Kent Fredric
2012-06-01 8:16 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-06-01 8:40 ` Kent Fredric
2012-05-30 16:53 ` Tobias Klausmann
2012-05-30 16:58 ` Aaron W. Swenson
2012-05-30 18:12 ` Justin
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