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From: Kent Fredric <kentfredric@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for changes for the next EAPI version
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:15:59 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAATnKFAQcU2LKNJ8K-n6c3AdsLHKUJvkTn6v0orH0nHB0TTvuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160517084643.GA24972@skade.schwarzvogel.de>

On 17 May 2016 at 20:46, Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> And as for my pet peeve, tests that are known to fail, can we
> also annotate that somehow so I don't waste hours running a test
> suite that gives zero signal on whether I should add the stable
> keyword? Even a one-line hin in the stabilization request would
> be nice. As it is, I keep a list of known-to-fail packages and my
> testing machinery tells me to not bother with FEATURES=test in
> those case.


IMO: Tests that are "expected to fail" should be killed.

You should either use RESTRICT=test to veto tests entirely ( which I
don't favour ), or more carefully
filter how the test suites get executed.

Tests that fail for non-reasons and are left in that state serve a
disservice to any package that has them, because it encourages people
to not run tests, and that encourages them not to see failures when
the tests identify *real* issues.

There's really no point in a test suite if "Failure is OK" is the
standard you're targeting.

-- 
Kent

KENTNL - https://metacpan.org/author/KENTNL


  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-17  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-16 12:43 [gentoo-dev] Proposal for changes for the next EAPI version Pallav Agarwal
2016-05-16 16:38 ` Luis Ressel
2016-05-17  7:37   ` Pallav Agarwal
2016-05-17  8:02     ` Kent Fredric
2016-05-17  8:46       ` Tobias Klausmann
2016-05-17  9:15         ` Kent Fredric [this message]
2016-05-17 10:57           ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-17 11:25             ` Pallav Agarwal
2016-05-17 11:42               ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-17 10:01         ` Pallav Agarwal
2016-05-17 11:26           ` Michael Orlitzky
2016-05-17 11:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-18  8:18               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-05-17 13:53     ` [gentoo-dev] " M.B.
2016-05-17 14:02       ` Brian Dolbec
2016-05-17 15:34     ` Luis Ressel
2016-05-17 16:05       ` Sébastien Fabbro
2016-05-17 16:42         ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-18  0:14         ` Kent Fredric
2016-05-18  0:35           ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-18  0:44             ` Kent Fredric
2016-05-18  0:48               ` M. J. Everitt

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