From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B43FB1382C5 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 22:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C7D1E0B05; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 22:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf0-x241.google.com (mail-lf0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96F88E0AD1 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 22:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-x241.google.com with SMTP id a204so8664259lfa.2 for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:55:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=62cIAzAxVgsse2HCyi/DBqBhhKUEKd2IWn9Xfm/nU78=; b=lsTg+6iOIlB8fmc0E7IHVG6kMWHyNTLOz74EbZaJqt6pKrXAm4r2OX2BzdfJg/ho2v w1g/EyBnFSkSx++ALkKLSkzkbvuhlVTjxJ2NEzjQo0/tzyT5Jaku7nrVidpKKqYJprpn kwMPvAyflq+THNXvEPH9lmnmpQV8maFCM1vMZCHBBL8vi06PacecnVbKxsvHN9t49dnK 9LVPcu751fFDur0LVLGk+W1IAd5bnIJ7Cv9W9l39jg+gllLaHDEvzpae0LwftL/1TP7n EthBxcBhoEu3E00fArDJQcZJ9htf0P3lTBjf2AIYf7OcF2ZhpayjVYvSpNzcoeswjnuF KHHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=62cIAzAxVgsse2HCyi/DBqBhhKUEKd2IWn9Xfm/nU78=; b=TS11jH4Z1Y8wKzS64JhmLZ3bnjZtvNNuYwx8ncXGq+vudaXUDwP6sQlBzKUMlQfq+o yBdcvVu7K/usGuJEQ/9AKBQ4vq75XV51QJaLOD6Pu7Fvfr0AGowr0vEHY/s3htfg1pPQ bzCz/ivNAW4odsUGcbvznSJqWWBAvrFq6Vr6ZJz7tqOG7evt/UQdAfIJV8hAMTi6fknP iitBPEB58qjIcKuQm0KTcsIkw/YQ0eoFGxlMAOjQonJCjoiKSKo3ZlounceuWJice9zh eX/wGuru4jcUCExWoijv3MuAJ0sz/9/YRZLgQWQNg6TIhgM3i8oU8KoXW+0xmUGPTH8G Bi4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBHM+ZafYY3jSzaSjUN2i40C4cSx2jvoWCRPOgV5sog4AKkkgi5 oS9gZVnFcZW9UoTLqxC1MhWZPQXkrJaEWGNZ7PA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227KtPugSUGjVje6DSAPDGrqeql6+JMHS66Vj2JCFnhYxTDXF6v7rG8tOfZSrovLoBFUlBcyuxaz/WDsOXYqxBM= X-Received: by 10.46.47.13 with SMTP id v13mr470372ljv.15.1518130502502; Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:55:02 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.46.25.216 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 14:55:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <23164.46027.799243.817871@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20180208190306.GA31846@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <23164.46027.799243.817871@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: R0b0t1 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 16:55:02 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: handling the "uucp" group To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 367d39ba-6e27-4733-96c3-4bf200a7f65b X-Archives-Hash: 6d5b634d87b128e6eccfb79aa79813a1 On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, William Hubbs wrote: > >> First, baselayout has had the "dialout" group since 2015, so the >> longterm fix imo is to possibly use that instead of the uucp group. >> What would it take to make that happen, or are we stuck with the >> uucp group forever? > > There was an old discussion on this in bug 108249 [1]. The decision > back in 2005 was to use the "uucp" group (because apparently that was > what both Debian and Fedora did at the time), but IIRC it was pretty > much arbitrary. > > So I don't see a reason why we couldn't use "dialout" instead. > UUCP doesn't have any intrinsic relationship with modems, though it probably finds (found) most use over modems. Was "dialout" or "tty" changed to "uucp" for some reason? If possible please use dialout, as very few modems are teletypes. It makes the most sense to me to give a uucp user dialout or tty permission, instead of adding myself to the uucp group, a name which references programs most people won't have installed and won't know about. Cheers, R0b0t1