From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CF771382C5 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90CDEE08ED; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-il1-x130.google.com (mail-il1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65B9BE08D4 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-il1-x130.google.com with SMTP id d1so12108154ila.8 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 01:54:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vanvoorden-be.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2SASYWkvB9/aVvC3wW1OhRNFpwT+B/fGWQBfHkFZJZw=; b=czy6vdOOhfRn8+F8DkVhHcstwwWLhgAtYrtkaAn0/9qsyEeLI4saNEwopIQap9q+sl rhAS8Zq6+52QbOAMl6yRl/spfmqGyHnKh7SBCGjNox3BW2+ah07Xg3l7e8hL8JPg1v94 n6C4ZqpQz2ZdMrGsoiqoitHIg8WyZqvgsfDXy+1mSivqofAhXBaOOLWxxK+WW1P8gmT8 gB9SVhbWBsowZ24goTCAewG/zPKuXzIFDDlkm9Oxt3/3FQdSqvQUroFy7WtsU7FO2E2n Mm3uQDHxW2p6mp5pgGINiCcZsFw49LNx4X5KswaanBhduCAh9eMgKpWWsVhl13ruBpB9 X1JA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=2SASYWkvB9/aVvC3wW1OhRNFpwT+B/fGWQBfHkFZJZw=; b=GYEg2nP+x5U9Rs1T6eRF/px9fmzab3K6JS9l4RXbwVGOwYQTTlqGjxTRTfPh8qnQ8s YA/eDcaMBzRsd2hy/4qFI3DVYI4OB3wUBPf7sH1h4RveCdIOfNJtA9Qnli9kL+2VxATn DZIuNee15yeG1tnl1kB96zowwCJimANWA1/hLzB1ZgC/RsxoqUkBVmGnJJ2UqlFz4j09 fhuqkMqDJMSDkDwBHyS8D+NxODS3GsCrdE05zI/M8zp5spCi+PVhg+oOalzb2gTJqceW oQW2VQ3DJVTaqNjh9I0+OV2CnnOPww6LkBUksyczSiX6mGB7eC3o8rR/AOKRoUEGNmwv RNLA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531aLLpUiHJgGaoFh696fv4QCfIj787OHudinDOpqlPNyvA5AR4o gxBcNxtC6PlEBSH4TGy/FFFVJjKI7knRiE7SupgCGSXUTmE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzkx9MKwiHeEDq7IaeGKhYXhv507unL/h3PN3kBFX1PYHia+r7dFBG6NvImoNsLHTqaQJ7am2RUKEIXe9acyU0= X-Received: by 2002:a92:de48:: with SMTP id e8mr24461199ilr.249.1591088043222; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 01:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mathy Vanvoorden Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 10:53:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Value of Continuous integration vs Code Review / Pull Requests To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009f80a105a7160d04" X-Archives-Salt: 3e124a22-2ee9-4e61-9f84-08efca3b0eda X-Archives-Hash: 301858228168c29b7a61d8dcd7a57cea --0000000000009f80a105a7160d04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Op di 2 jun. 2020 om 10:47 schreef Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny : > 1. This is not free software. > It was not clear for me if this was a requirement or not. The license is free for open source projects. I don't see the difference between companies offering CE versions of their commercial products, they also "take advantage" of the communities' contributions. 2. Atlassian has done a few very bad moves lately, and they're unlikely > to survive on the market for very long. > I'm not sure what you are talking about, they have their faults but if they were headed for real problems I'd probably have heard about it and would not consider proposing it. 3. The whole point of having something self-hosted is not to rely > on third party hosting it for us. > I'm talking about self-hosted too, not their cloud offering. Bamboo isn't even available in the cloud. -- Best Regards, Mathy --0000000000009f80a105a7160d04 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Op di 2 jun. 2020 om 10:47 schreef Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = <mgorny@gentoo.org>:
1. This is not free software.

It was no= t clear for me if this was a requirement or not. The license is free for op= en source projects. I don't see the difference between companies offeri= ng CE versions of their commercial products, they also "take advantage= " of the communities' contributions.

2. Atlassian has done a few very bad moves lately, and they're unlikely=
to survive on the market for very long.

I'm not sure what you are talking about, they have their faults but if= they were headed for real problems I'd probably have heard about it an= d would not consider proposing it.

3. The whole point of having something self-hosted is not to rely
on third party hosting it for us.

I'= ;m talking about self-hosted too, not their cloud offering. Bamboo isn'= t even available in the cloud.

--
Best R= egards,
Mathy
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