From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXCnO-00037d-Fp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:11:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 857D121C11E; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f181.google.com (mail-iy0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98BB21C135 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iabz21 with SMTP id z21so1147504iab.40 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 06:09:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L3329zVjCx9clIHTbj0owP2bBXCLxDAfJpMPp+VuKTQ=; b=DQf3QuctNSnwP1llSlF6SS5c9MBwxoEyEcL4vc+5MyZYSpdwI0D70OJ3XYysfeOHBO nfVgtu+h2S1jJB98+kmHlVEz8ohZrE3iHJOewiiJhNTlyUpJKVuxBW0arXLl32qE6PqB bJk5r1B4yIrH2t4Kgg6dM2L8md2GQjuMlsVfY= Received: by 10.50.236.5 with SMTP id uq5mr6347755igc.47.1323007764191; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 06:09:24 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.227.198 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 06:09:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111204005117.519cd7ff@gentoo.org> References: <20111204045000.244efea3@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <20111204005117.519cd7ff@gentoo.org> From: James Broadhead Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:09:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again? To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0391774b-3748-4621-a3d6-6e47d41f8836 X-Archives-Hash: 923a6021c3f03d4d0bc1713157b92940 On 4 December 2011 06:51, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 04:50:00 +0100 > Jeroen Roovers wrote: > >> Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have >> been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both >> bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative >> that every developer should be able to read. > > How many times have you needed to request build logs in english since the= last > time you brought this up? =C2=A0How many times have you had to request em= erge > --info or build logs in general? Surely this can be automated? "Error - Bug not filed! No emerge --info attachment detected. Either tag one of your attachments as `emerge --info`, or upload one" > I think adding a note to bugzilla reminding reporters that logs need to b= e in > english would be a better solution than forcing it on everyone. Again, automation should be moderately easy to achieve. Having bugzie grep for "Error" / "Warning" in the top ten non-English languages should be enough. On a positive, reject the output with a popup explaining how to get an English version. Am I wrong, or is LC_MESSAGES=3DC a non-UTF-8 locale? Why is this considered a good idea? Why not en-UTF-8?