From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SprAC-0008UV-Io for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:28:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 597FCE07B4; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C226E07AA for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so3380420bkw.40 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XsEK+fsQf1LTj2uayE4WTLEZBQioC5hRsRReF4JPHA8=; b=lgHYVxqYok2vwmYTxlS0b2Hf+wavV/WxnuwvOM4alQWMl5+nxCFNEXoQTEbOOTkuMO pXHIiql08E6+jXCOfLW3W1llRmmQR4RbzYsAPZdKg3TWQFSdkPp8PkZiZOWeQUrJMwxl I65ZF09KzAwEAYPQd6FFnHqnQdkOhWBAF9O3lcUGPR25r3qLOOVfsahcPnmS2NzKXMhl ssRPID+om3M6n9ah64K8sLgez/4S5gyKsygQGLo7eQihzhYn7GTvD3OmbtpUIZMvYd21 vKPvNJPDINPjEOw4O2q/ZlEONata0h3aHJ716sPeie03rieiaLY4g8U+Bqo3KwyLtL+f pBrg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.129.14 with SMTP id m14mr1947442bks.7.1342229284179; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.10.12 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:28:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120714012207.GB6930@waltdnes.org> References: <20120712034036.GA2439@waltdnes.org> <4FFED31D.9010505@gentoo.org> <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> <20120713200449.GA6292@waltdnes.org> <50008143.3050708@gentoo.org> <20120714001343.GA6879@waltdnes.org> <20120714012207.GB6930@waltdnes.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:28:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: c44fee94-f335-477d-9422-b50c4d3f52e1 X-Archives-Hash: a0d13606377659044c581b861a88eb4d On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded >> > device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large >> > for embedded devices. >> >> What's ?too large?? Udev already looks pretty small to me (116k udevd, >> 50k libudev, 500k resident memory), and I didn't even try compiling it >> with all extra features switched off. If that's too large for an >> embedded device, does that device really need (or can handle) anything >> more than devtmpfs? > > What does "equery depgraph" show for udev? Since I don't have udev > installed, I can't check it here. sys-fs/udev-114: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-114 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-115-r1: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-115-r1 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-119: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-119 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-124-r1: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-124-r1 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-124-r2: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-124-r2 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-141: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-141 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-141-r1: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-141-r1 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-146-r1: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-146-r1 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/acl-2.2.51 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] virtual/libusb-0 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-149: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-149 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/acl-2.2.51 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] virtual/libusb-0 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] app-text/tree-1.6.0-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-151-r4: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-151-r4 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/acl-2.2.51 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] virtual/libusb-0 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] app-text/tree-1.6.0-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-164-r2: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-164-r2 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/acl-2.2.51 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] virtual/libusb-0 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] app-text/tree-1.6.0-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-171-r5: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-171-r5 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/acl-2.2.51 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 [ 1] virtual/libusb-0 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] app-text/tree-1.6.0-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] sys-apps/hwids-99999999 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r2 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-171-r6: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-171-r6 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 [ 1] virtual/libusb-0 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] app-text/tree-1.6.0-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] sys-apps/hwids-99999999 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r2 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7 [ 1] sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 sys-fs/udev-182-r2: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-182-r2 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 [ 1] sys-apps/kmod-9999 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.18-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/usbutils-004 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7 [ 1] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-9999 sys-fs/udev-182-r3: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-182-r3 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 [ 1] sys-apps/kmod-9999 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.18-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/hwids-99999999 [ 1] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-9999 sys-fs/udev-186: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-186 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/kmod-9999 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] dev-util/intltool-0.50.2 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.18-r1 [ 1] sys-devel/automake-1.11.1 [ 1] sys-devel/automake-1.12.1 [ 1] sys-devel/autoconf-2.68 [ 1] sys-devel/libtool-2.4-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/hwids-99999999 [ 1] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-9999 sys-fs/udev-9999: [ 0] sys-fs/udev-9999 [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 [ 1] sys-apps/kmod-9999 [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 [ 1] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.18-r1 [ 1] app-text/tree-1.6.0-r1 [ 1] dev-vcs/git-1.7.8.6 [ 1] sys-devel/automake-1.11.1 [ 1] sys-devel/automake-1.12.1 [ 1] sys-devel/autoconf-2.68 [ 1] sys-devel/libtool-2.4-r1 [ 1] sys-apps/hwids-99999999 [ 1] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-9999 -- :wq