From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05995198005 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06714E0713; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2591BE0675 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id o17so9275006oag.20 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:44:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=r3pek.org; s=r3pek; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=I9kI/43J5fPGBah536lsREIUj1CTm2ShNWvThZ2jBAA=; b=ERkzAhmSkvn0P92Mv4JhES7D2phc6VZ7EZtUrz072TacxzRsO8ghDqutyzCrgR8eHp TwFC4ksUmAP8InRYAA8+tKvrBmIHUIzjf1AyKIsKU2nDem8gt5s9imwYx6ntFVSRwcv0 ztzayr5T+gYXnvfvIbvkEGPg1dCyH9oLsr2j4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=I9kI/43J5fPGBah536lsREIUj1CTm2ShNWvThZ2jBAA=; b=HuUrKdz9UKDzm7nP1WC4+gNSBWW4C4ZNpI4Qvpxjg3A+iKcHLZEigTDU5Vby1XK1Sv pgutxVe9Co2YDIZDBVj5iP9fqoI5hjBrbjsI6vWFVqXC/DVLP1oGRz21ykhdysArwd48 z8vyhPplmabwa/md8Gt6d4ybY5lufSG2vRbEMg0XaJ8hl0XSEesKI90rw3OltkZZmFxR 0sQaYwxXrC0yCIJW1bQImBIsewfTjCUZIOIOHyfiNl/SmuL8NjloI5V8Zl3rgqlrrDTO bAcSpU3Z4uOT8Lhc3B9TEIHz548DyJ5Dj8WH2jSOnFmuC7y0e6g9+Zsk3uQ24RWVbMQ4 QoBQ== X-Received: by 10.60.29.129 with SMTP id k1mr16559976oeh.8.1362415494057; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:44:54 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.34.36 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 08:44:33 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.242.34.250] In-Reply-To: <20130304162850.GA20808@waltdnes.org> References: <51341977.8040105@gentoo.org> <20130304162850.GA20808@waltdnes.org> From: Carlos Silva Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:44:33 -0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff256688f6d3f04d71c13d6 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKxxCATdiCeqvto/gQYHabkBbJjZWJoLxAJ/1RBglVDui7V5Id4QFrwBie8s1EuInAJVXr X-Archives-Salt: 667def93-f3bd-48f6-8c04-7f0d0ac73426 X-Archives-Hash: df2742aeb3bc724b6c40041ac1fdf5e8 --e89a8ff256688f6d3f04d71c13d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so this may be a stupid > question, but here goes... has anyone ever tried doing a HAL (Hardware > Abstraction Layer) to present a reasonably stable interface to binary > video drivers? Think of it as a shim translating a "pseudo-API" into > "the real API" that the kernel exposes directly. Surely, we can do > better than VESA. Give drivers 2 options... > 1) direct kernel access like now > 2) access via the HAL/shim Just read this file and you'll have the answer: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt --e89a8ff256688f6d3f04d71c13d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes= @waltdnes.org> wrote:
=A0 I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so = this may be a stupid
question, but here goes... has anyone ever tried doing a HAL (Hardware
Abstraction Layer) to present a reasonably stable interface to binary
video drivers? =A0Think of it as a shim translating a "pseudo-API"= ; into
"the real API" that the kernel exposes directly. =A0Surely, we ca= n do
better than VESA. =A0Give drivers 2 options...
1) direct kernel access like now
2) access via the HAL/shim

Just read = this file and you'll have the answer:
/usr/src/linux/Do= cumentation/stable_ap= i_nonsense.txt
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