Ben, you're really just being a child here. Is that a really big problem to add a small text file to your package?! Is that a big maintaining burden?

If you can't test it, systemd team can, just like there are arch teams to test packages on other archs the maintainers can't. It's not something that changes code or functionality to that level that it can't be maintained with help.

Nobody is forcing you to use systemd, there are just people how are asking to let them use it.

You talk a lot about Gentoo is about choice, but you are not giving that choice. You're forcing people to *not* use systemd (not using something else), because you don't like it. Plain simple.


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
El dom, 26-05-2013 a las 00:14 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
> I'm taking this from https://bugs.gentoo.org/412697 to the dev mailing
> list, since this discussion doesn't really belong on bugzilla.
>
> Some background copied from the bug report:
[...]

Probably your following comment in bug report summarizes the real
reasons pointing you to not apply that patch after waiting a year for
upstream action:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412697#c8

Reading your comments in bug report gave me the impression of you
refusing to provide the unit file simply to try to interfere as much as
possible with getting higher systemd compatibility in Gentoo, even if I
don't see how adding the unit file will hurt openrc users and how it
will hurt you (as co-maintainer) when another dev is taking care of unit
file and systemd team can also maintain it.

We can now have long discussions about upstream decisions, how to handle
devrel problems... but I think it's much more easy: this kind of
"boycott" attitudes should stop in favor of common sense.