Ben, you're really just being a child here. Is that a really big problem to
add a small text file to your package?! Is that a big maintaining burden?

If you can't test it, systemd team can, just like there are arch teams to
test packages on other archs the maintainers can't. It's not something that
changes code or functionality to that level that it can't be maintained
with help.

Nobody is forcing you to use systemd, there are just people how are asking
to let them use it.

You talk a lot about Gentoo is about choice, but you are not giving that
choice. You're forcing people to *not* use systemd (not using something
else), because you don't like it. Plain simple.


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:

> El dom, 26-05-2013 a las 00:14 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
> > I'm taking this from https://bugs.gentoo.org/412697 to the dev mailing
> > list, since this discussion doesn't really belong on bugzilla.
> >
> > Some background copied from the bug report:
> [...]
>
> Probably your following comment in bug report summarizes the real
> reasons pointing you to not apply that patch after waiting a year for
> upstream action:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412697#c8
>
> Reading your comments in bug report gave me the impression of you
> refusing to provide the unit file simply to try to interfere as much as
> possible with getting higher systemd compatibility in Gentoo, even if I
> don't see how adding the unit file will hurt openrc users and how it
> will hurt you (as co-maintainer) when another dev is taking care of unit
> file and systemd team can also maintain it.
>
> We can now have long discussions about upstream decisions, how to handle
> devrel problems... but I think it's much more easy: this kind of
> "boycott" attitudes should stop in favor of common sense.
>
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