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From: Carlos Silva <r3pek@r3pek.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 17:14:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ZvHYGmwAsF8UCTH2xsHF0=Aph+qw71m+cQQR9fAoWEPWLzWw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1369501216.3001.4.camel@localhost>

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Ben, you're really just being a child here. Is that a really big problem to
add a small text file to your package?! Is that a big maintaining burden?

If you can't test it, systemd team can, just like there are arch teams to
test packages on other archs the maintainers can't. It's not something that
changes code or functionality to that level that it can't be maintained
with help.

Nobody is forcing you to use systemd, there are just people how are asking
to let them use it.

You talk a lot about Gentoo is about choice, but you are not giving that
choice. You're forcing people to *not* use systemd (not using something
else), because you don't like it. Plain simple.


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:

> El dom, 26-05-2013 a las 00:14 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
> > I'm taking this from https://bugs.gentoo.org/412697 to the dev mailing
> > list, since this discussion doesn't really belong on bugzilla.
> >
> > Some background copied from the bug report:
> [...]
>
> Probably your following comment in bug report summarizes the real
> reasons pointing you to not apply that patch after waiting a year for
> upstream action:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412697#c8
>
> Reading your comments in bug report gave me the impression of you
> refusing to provide the unit file simply to try to interfere as much as
> possible with getting higher systemd compatibility in Gentoo, even if I
> don't see how adding the unit file will hurt openrc users and how it
> will hurt you (as co-maintainer) when another dev is taking care of unit
> file and systemd team can also maintain it.
>
> We can now have long discussions about upstream decisions, how to handle
> devrel problems... but I think it's much more easy: this kind of
> "boycott" attitudes should stop in favor of common sense.
>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-25 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-25 16:14 [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Ben de Groot
2013-05-25 16:48 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-25 17:38   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-25 20:02     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-25 20:40       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-25 20:45       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-25 21:38   ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26  7:23   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  7:43     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 10:04       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 15:21         ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26 16:15           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-26 17:14             ` Matt Turner
2013-05-26 17:19             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-26  7:54     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-25 17:00 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-25 17:14   ` Carlos Silva [this message]
2013-05-26  7:15   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  7:44     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-26  7:45     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  9:59       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-25 18:13 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-25 19:53   ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-25 19:58     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-25 21:55       ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-25 19:59     ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26  7:00     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  7:22     ` Tiziano Müller
2013-05-26  7:46       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-26  7:49       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  7:00   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  7:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)) Michał Górny
2013-05-26  8:32   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  9:49     ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 10:12       ` Robert David
2013-05-26 10:31         ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 11:12           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 11:31           ` Robert David
2013-05-26 11:47             ` [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 10:23   ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 11:15     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 11:59       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 13:35         ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-05-26 14:22           ` Luca Barbato
     [not found] <51A1A294.3000609@sporkbox.us>
2013-05-26  6:24 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Daniel Campbell
2013-05-26  6:55   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  7:37     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-26  7:56     ` Pacho Ramos

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