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From: Carlos Silva <r3pek@r3pek.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:05:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ZvHYF68Bi6H6y5uxz64rL8-V9DeGTJgHUE-LsNU0ySSLP8mA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51786B9C.9070607@gentoo.org>

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How about someone decide which is the best version and keep it integrated
in OpenRC? There's no best version? diff the two of them and merge what
matters. I mean, how many distros do you know that have two sets of init
scripts *just* to configure networking? I know Gentoo is about choice, but
this feels a little too much choice. What will I choose next? Someone can
 decide that keymap needs a refactor and just fork it, of maybe hostname,
or <insert_some_stupid_but_*needed*_init_script_here>.

Just my 2 cents...


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina <
zerochaos@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> On 04/24/2013 07:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
> >>
> >>> Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
> >>> need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
> >>> support by default.  I'd rather not do it as part of the system set,
> >>> though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it
> >>> is still override-able.
> >>   To handle the various possible cases, maybe we need a "virtual/net" as
> >> part of the system set, which can be satisfied by either oldnet or
> >> newnet or whatever.  The install ISO will have a basic working network
> >> stack (IPV4+IPV6).  After the initial install, the admin can do
> >> whatever.  Maybe even invoke package.provided.
> >
> > This would actually be cleaner than a bogus dependency in OpenRC.
> > I would probably call it virtual/network-manager though.
> >
> You can't call it virtual/network-manager, that calls to mind, you know,
> net-misc/networkmanager.  That's just too confusing imho.  I wouldn't
> object to virtual/net, or pretty much anything else that isn't
> confusing.  The net scripts are not a network manager, networkmanager,
> wicd, even wpa_supplicant would be things I would consider to be network
> managers.
>
> - -Zero
>
> > Are there any issues with putting together  a virtual like this and
> > adding it to @system?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > William
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-25  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24 16:16 [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC William Hubbs
2013-04-24 16:45 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 17:01   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:30     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 21:00     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 16:58 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-24 17:23   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:34     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 17:54       ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 18:16         ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-24 18:30           ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 21:01             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  8:41               ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26  8:58                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 11:20                   ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 16:24                     ` »Q«
2013-04-24 22:34           ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 23:17             ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 23:32               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-25  0:05                 ` Carlos Silva [this message]
2013-04-25  1:10                 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  1:39                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-25  2:12                     ` Zac Medico
2013-04-25 18:10               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-25 18:27                 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2013-04-25 18:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 19:08                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 18:46         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 22:18           ` Patrick McLean
2013-04-26 17:27         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-04-26 18:12           ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 18:14             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-26 18:53               ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  3:13       ` Alec Warner
2013-04-25  3:32         ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 19:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-04-24 19:17   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 19:09     ` vivo75
2013-04-25 23:07       ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-26  8:44     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-25 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2013-04-25 16:58   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 17:13     ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:17       ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:18         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:23           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:23       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-25 22:15       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-04-25 22:51         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 23:12           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 23:15           ` Ambroz Bizjak
2013-04-26  8:37           ` Duncan
2013-04-25 23:49 ` [gentoo-dev] OldNet out of OpenRC: as the requester Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 10:13   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-04-26 14:14 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Luca Barbato

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