Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

[Carlos Silva <r3pek@r3pek.org>]

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Is the real problem just the god damn unit/init files?! Damn, who cares
about 2KiB files in the age of GiBs?! You can install 1000 of them that it
will only take 2MiB of storage, so please, quit complaining about this.

One thing dev's should take care is (not that affects me, 'cause I really
don't care) is mentions to rc-update on einfo's. Again, I really don't
care, but, for the sake of making them (openrc, systemd, etc) equal, that
really shouldn't be mentioned.


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Andreas K. Huettel
> <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > The decision was made long ago. Use flags are not the correct way to
> control
> > solely the installation of a few small files.
>
> This was really the heart of the discussion where the decision was made
> before.
>
> USE flags should control things that affect dependencies, especially
> linked dependencies. If a package wants to pull in systemd or link to
> it, then it should have a USE flag if at all possible.  Likewise if a
> package wants to pull in openrc or link to it then it should have a
> USE flag.
>
> When you're talking about just a few text files it isn't worth it.
> Those who disagree can use INSTALL_MASK and nuke them from orbit.
>
> Openrc isn't going anywhere as long as somebody cares to maintain it.
> I don't see that changing anytime soon, and if it does change the only
> thing its users can do is step up and maintain it (or pay somebody to
> do it for them).  That's pretty-much how everything works on Gentoo,
> or any other volunteer distro.  Don't worry about it - considering we
> had a few devs step up and fork udev I doubt openrc is going away
> anytime soon.
>
> Rich
>
>

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