From: Carlos Silva <r3pek@r3pek.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:51:01 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
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>
Maybe I was miss understood here. I know that there are tons of ways to
have gentoo *running* in a box without it having network connection. The
thing is that makes like 0.01% of the total installs. It's not a default
install, it isn't on any gentoo manual I know of (besides the chroot one,
but I really don't consider that an installation), and most importantly,
AFAIK, it's not something any John Doe would do. Offline installations and
"runtimes" are for geeks that use linux for a long time and know how the
system work and have the knowledge to build a stage4 or chroot and move it
to another box. It's not something technically difficult for us "geeks",
but would take ages for some non-geek to do it.
Hell, a friend of mine normally calls me when he needs to do something to
his box other that "pacman <something>" (yeah, he's on arch) and he's using
linux for some time now.
The bottom line here is, does @system have to have virtual/network-provider?
- Yes -> Make it RDEPEND;
- No -> don't care and just set some use flags.
The question above is more a political one than technical. Everyone here
knows that a system doesn't have to have networking support for it to boot,
we can't even guarantee that networking support is in the kernel (at least
I don't see it using kernel-*.eclass), but is it a safe default meaning
that 99% or more of the people will use or *need* it? <--- political
Sorry if I was too long on this :)
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2013-04-24 16:16 [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC William Hubbs
2013-04-24 16:45 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 17:01 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:30 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 21:00 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 16:58 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-24 17:23 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:34 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 17:54 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 18:16 ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-24 18:30 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 21:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 8:41 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 8:58 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 11:20 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 16:24 ` »Q«
2013-04-24 22:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 23:17 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 23:32 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-25 0:05 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 1:10 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 1:39 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-25 2:12 ` Zac Medico
2013-04-25 18:10 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-25 18:27 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2013-04-25 18:54 ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 19:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 18:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 22:18 ` Patrick McLean
2013-04-26 17:27 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-04-26 18:12 ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 18:14 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-26 18:53 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 3:13 ` Alec Warner
2013-04-25 3:32 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 19:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-04-24 19:17 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 19:09 ` vivo75
2013-04-25 23:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-26 8:44 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-25 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2013-04-25 16:58 ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 17:13 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:17 ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:18 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:23 ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:23 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-25 22:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-04-25 22:51 ` Carlos Silva [this message]
2013-04-25 23:12 ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 23:15 ` Ambroz Bizjak
2013-04-26 8:37 ` Duncan
2013-04-25 23:49 ` [gentoo-dev] OldNet out of OpenRC: as the requester Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 10:13 ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-04-26 14:14 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Luca Barbato
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