From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E531387C8 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B462E0656; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DB67E0504 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id va7so4084035obc.13 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Cg0Z07rfTRNDy585714o1d9jq0cE+W/2UoyNoUX0Uow=; b=lsvaZmNvSJ7lsyFZ/hezFHkXpCIAYlcf2bvlS2AqwwdkYqg1YBz2x8TVXRpJc6XJHf 7FWs0BdkuQbwl/KMZKQ23LqRFqEQjtSgljvbch93TXwP1sUtxT216RjTsiLn3ziLYOFu JhgEE/cYm7gn5y+fPzWuyrOQDRtVaHTmTqdEN7GqgkucUmSVmVawVnSxzVB7fC9twiTG YFs2xGVbGquHGponSIZjpAYFViJxbN7esw27sjTnKUfHZCpGutQKY/0DSshS5dDTVMMX qgAAPia6oXx/cShgYayspbU67iy4bUTs6sggtVJd805TFxUKXbmkGTv3Ih5RanIYHRDh 5/Cw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.13.73 with SMTP id f9mr9460495oec.131.1359726799436; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.54.232 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:53:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply (I am not going to figure out which tread of those all should i reply to) From: =?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBDaHbDoXRhbA==?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 94f54fa1-9f1c-4bae-8b7f-cc5f4ac84fa7 X-Archives-Hash: 5056bf5f93ce262529dc46040c21b4b9 Hello guys, just to be sure here "Removals are completely up to the maintainer to decide", with expection of QA removal where the package must be already broken to get punted. If you as developers and users find some package useful you can retake the maintainership (or became proxy-maint) which also expects you to take care of the bugs (QA can prune it even if you take the maintainership but ignore failures [even if your personal feeling is that it is corner case, it is for QA to deicde]). For dead upstream packages there are quite few problems you, who support keeping it in tree, seem not to notice. The distro patches will blob up (with each distro having different stuff) as things break with shiny new updates (and no saying it builds with older xyz does not make it work), users have no chance to report problems with the package elsewhere than to our bugzilla, etc, etc. This is the reason why the fedorahosted.org was fired up. So if you care about the package, take your time, fire up VCS/homepage/tracker there and try to work on it or find someone else interested to help you with becaming at least pseodo-upstream. Cheers Tom