From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C753913877A for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83EC1E0815; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f41.google.com (mail-qg0-f41.google.com [209.85.192.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97A4DE079B for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id q107so15460qgd.0 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:26:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=DD2/qu0FSfLLeATmXHlo+u32Ja6931HqkrPo/fu8gXM=; b=Ydh98sTkHpvkbQkr+ivCF5tBsbKofUXhiHG6KSJxG6gnaRAwj1AesReRutHe2uAbN+ KRpwpHYvFAAFNFdBDGl5DwKNkYJmoQAzzDe3LZvqkPqmOGsfkEIggmEuqgM4Wc6fFuoo j6K9Wg8mTmU5Q8n7LWhQzLp28AWRHSB+BXW0gmXVNXCnqAm4HfMJaflVdq9z6EdzKJeq rJyGVeQyd0O41qXtfPa6P7p7GJHRgglZg5bKcYjB8NAOYFvdSna1f4jXDFb8J8P9QZ6R b77jndrzeZSd0OXrK9XIdjQxPvYauG/qwJnccHuiY+CWCvoY+EYPq6PlgV0TESIHji8+ 2YYA== X-Received: by 10.224.120.193 with SMTP id e1mr9137717qar.42.1405204010873; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: denis.dupeyron@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.27.39 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:26:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140707234502.3009929a@pomiot.lan> References: <20140707234502.3009929a@pomiot.lan> From: Denis Dupeyron Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:26:10 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: K3J8Z2A1hngRIqPpID6CdVOoiqo Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The request to abolish games team policy To: gentoo-dev Cc: games@gentoo.org, Gentoo Quality Assurance Team , "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 6b4c505a-7231-415c-a7e5-3f831155e932 X-Archives-Hash: 94b2d5241f6be107b74a4156f0cda34f Please do not take this personally. I honestly wonder what all the fuss is about. There are a few games I've helped with over the years and I've never had any trouble at all having my stuff reviewed and accepted. And I'm a lousy ebuild writer. Every time I'd suggest a fix, bump, or new package, and I came with an ebuild, I would get constructive criticism and I could then commit it myself. Not one single time did I get a "no". Not once. You had a fix and it was refused? Have you ever considered you may have been doing it wrong? I understand having to have your code reviewed and accepted sounds like an insult to a rock star like you, but that's the way it is in the real world. It is still beyond my understanding that code reviews are not mandatory for anything that is committed in Gentoo. Rich, if I may have a suggestion, it would be that instead of meddling with projects that have been doing their best with what they have for years, and which need praise rather than hindrance, you instead start a project to get people to think positively and accept criticism. The amount of energy that was spent in this thread and many others in pure loss could have gone a long way. Denis.