From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB71388BF for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0808221C02C; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com (mail-ig0-f178.google.com [209.85.213.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F242FE053C for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 5so21312562igt.0 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:09:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=zGZAGZe/61gnjdp3Pt5hwVnuMi6+HPQ14wV4OFsoKp0=; b=r9AUp3DKiS/8XAZvai2XPcVLbEtH91J+j0XspqDUZmZyLP0L2ALNhn5LFoMVjG4ui4 iZNUV6rp0tmNZqm0IJknoNpAUSSIZKZ1+vuZk++6aNVT19x7xc+xH19TlfC5JHZUHQWy c+Y0pnNDOiEopqkXGvQqewQAWbKvzBgVr7n/wzFO7I3+877RmC15ioyXFWN+z2XswKkn heJg8TMM+t+P44uQPSCFLUDeRpmkE9Q5j7JUWDLwH4XQR+ZIgV0wVnL3hKD3JURgyy8D ZhlpgG1E8Zs6We9+G+gRgW2B4HnmbNAcSHhAneFh88tt+8ZLpVI+Wp12tqt+wja8xk6H lD2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=zGZAGZe/61gnjdp3Pt5hwVnuMi6+HPQ14wV4OFsoKp0=; b=Xp9T+av97zz5lrZ0up7Q7I3vOY+vgCPBBvHSqUwX3o5b9RAMFJdahvNL048cEu+JTK EiXxM8JSl/Dm0IJAtpxImS4+bdIMrQZxD55KskDscnI54eYjnymigbKj3BfSNsy0D8o0 iVm5qAkhtm0M8Far/obGnv56ZImXitUzpZM88sM2j5fGlwTj7OwyEv+KkOlEzVCToYYu wHkuvYDuwEi7RgSsYDdadZImmbx1Do8e++o6C6v75IYukOV9ue35Hw7TZqdwetGsfknl 4+Kr909dwGyiGPxRL929t+WBa4/jdZ3W/qfFZV2F8YPDciCVjEPCYDpk1jGtIBbZGmbb qkIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTB9pE7Pmtf6WVsiwx7EyYFPctRPbSI9tJdOK8TgzUzYTSVNGaOObdj4iAwGbLi3Hd9/+LG+HEXk3xSgQ== X-Received: by 10.50.78.231 with SMTP id e7mr4962396igx.6.1455732550417; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:09:10 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: denis.dupeyron@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.149.65 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:08:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160217183308.694b15e0.mgorny@gentoo.org> References: <20160207113827.314d5bf0@hatshepsut> <20160207120929.0695b8b6.mgorny@gentoo.org> <56B734F2.9080402@gentoo.org> <20160208224923.5c5fbedc.mgorny@gentoo.org> <56C3D64E.6030700@gentoo.org> <17EF8F06-5304-4DD6-BFD6-3BB45B920833@gentoo.org> <20160217172205.7c586316.mgorny@gentoo.org> <20160217183308.694b15e0.mgorny@gentoo.org> From: Denis Dupeyron Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:08:30 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DLK7cxcdkQixNf8-C2rYuEzCzsU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass policy To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo-dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c649e8eb943052bfb2584 X-Archives-Salt: 253c78e2-a047-4d6d-84b6-8ba7597e6e41 X-Archives-Hash: 00b6454aa732a95425e1d21e3bc1a1c0 --089e013c649e8eb943052bfb2584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > I was stating the apparent state of facts. If people are told they're > supposed to go with games team, use their eclass, follow their > policies, that's how it looks to people. That's an entirely different point from the one I was making. But I'll entertain you anyway. All teams have rules and enforce them. If I commit, say, a python package and I don't use the python eclass, I'm sure to get a bug filed telling me to do so, a python team-member forcing the change on me if I refuse, this escalating to comrel if I complain or reverse the change, etc... So why would it be OK for the python team to coerce and not OK for the games team? In other words, why would the games team have less right to good housekeeping than the python team? Here python is just an example, I could have picked any other team. Denis. --089e013c649e8eb943052bfb2584 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny <= mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
I was stating the app= arent state of facts. If people are told they're
supposed to go with games team, use their eclass, follow their
policies, that's how it looks to people.

That's an entirely different point from the one I was making. But I&#= 39;ll entertain you anyway. All teams have rules and enforce them. If I com= mit, say, a python package and I don't use the python eclass, I'm s= ure to get a bug filed telling me to do so, a python team-member forcing th= e change on me if I refuse, this escalating to comrel if I complain or reve= rse the change, etc... So why would it be OK for the python team to coerce = and not OK for the games team? In other words, why would the games team hav= e less right to good housekeeping than the python team? Here python is just= an example, I could have picked any other team.

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