From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E1E8138334 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED9C5E081A; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B8E8E0801 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.5.121] (pool-96-232-204-110.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [96.232.204.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ryao) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DD89335CC8 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:49:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Richard Yao Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:49:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs Message-Id: References: <20180623025046.djmsv44moxuqkv6t@proprietary-killer> <1529738520.21177.5.camel@gentoo.org> <20180623073030.wdrjfrcv3swqwfkx@proprietary-killer> <77476CA5-628E-44D2-8BC1-63718DA34B12@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15G77) X-Archives-Salt: 33019dbd-46b4-41e7-8dee-c481821af3cd X-Archives-Hash: 6c6bba05f2ad08deae689e50ab142074 > On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:12 PM Richard Yao wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Prestige is good. We have prestige from our (myself and a few others) wor= k in upstream ZFS and Gentoo is well respected there. >=20 > Sure, but ZFS on Linux isn't a Gentoo project. >=20 > I'm not saying people who are Gentoo devs can't also do other things. > Lots of Gentoo devs are involved in lots of stuff that gets a fair bit > of respect. OpenRC is a big example of this. =46rom time to time I bump > into signs of Gentoo on upstream projects (just today that included > SoapySDRPlay). >=20 > Also, this gives us an opportunity to set an example, in helping to > ensure the upstream project is maintained in a distro-friendly manner > where Gentoo is a first class citizen. >=20 > I'm not saying that stuff like this should be banned from infra. It > just seems like an unnecessary constraint all-around. It means that > the project has to generally follow Gentoo policies/etc, and is > limited to the tools we provide. Just something to think about... Which policies would those be? The upstream projects that we do have as Gent= oo sub-projects seem to have plenty of freedom. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Rich >=20