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From: Kent Fredric <kentfredric@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Are tags just sets?
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:42:39 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimOJwhdfTvLcA+cUR8iE1qRd-Or=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106261712.27665.reavertm@gmail.com>

On 27 June 2011 03:12, Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see major disadvantage with this approach. It's painful to maintain.
> Imagine hundreds of different tags, with each package having at least two
> tags. You certainly don't expect anyone to be able to maintain that.
> Also those files cannot be generated since there needs to be some original
> source of tags information to generate such 'sets' from.

This problem is in my mind somewhat twofold.

There are 2 ways to approach applying a tag.

1. Opening each package and setting its tags ( package -> tags )
2. Opening a "tag" file and setting its packages ( tag -> package )

And both approaches are very handy.

1. Is useful because it makes it easy to apply a singular tag surgically.
2. Is useful because it makes it easy to apply one tag to a raft of packages.

However, if one wishes to implement something that works without
touching anything remotely part of portage itself, and one wants a
fast and easy proof of concept , number 2 is the preferable approach.
( Because you can make a basic example set of tags easily simply with
a bit of "find > file" for each tag you wish to create  )

Ultimately I think we'll see both forms emerging, long term we'll
probably edit metadata.xml, and the data will be aggregated to form a
singular fast-to-read tag index for each tag.

But we can develop the other half of the system, the "Work with an
existing tag index of sorts" /now/ and get a working proof of concept
without needing to derail ourselves bikeshedding how the portage side
of things will work.

( And I think we can expect to see tools emerge for maintaining
package tags, whether it be surgically or low-orbit-ion-cannon grade
precision )

-- 
Kent

perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-26 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-26  7:02 [gentoo-dev] Are tags just sets? Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-26  8:41 ` Michał Górny
2011-06-26  8:43   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-26  8:54     ` Michał Górny
2011-06-26  9:00       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-26 12:48         ` Michał Górny
2011-06-27  5:51           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-26 11:33 ` Wyatt Epp
2011-06-26 12:17 ` Kent Fredric
2011-06-26 14:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-06-26 15:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Maciej Mrozowski
2011-06-26 18:42   ` Kent Fredric [this message]
2011-06-27  5:49   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-27 18:21     ` Maciej Mrozowski
2011-06-28  6:19       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-27 20:23     ` Rich Freeman
2011-06-27 21:06       ` Wyatt Epp
2011-06-27 21:23         ` Rich Freeman
2011-06-27 21:39           ` Wyatt Epp
2011-06-28  6:19       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-06-28  3:26 ` Brian Harring
2011-06-28  3:43   ` Kent Fredric
2011-06-28  9:31     ` Brian Harring
2011-06-28 11:53   ` Peter Volkov
2011-06-28 15:33     ` Wyatt Epp
2011-06-28 18:52   ` Maciej Mrozowski

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