From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QRrjG-000775-75 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:09:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6C561C23F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com (mail-ww0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667631C179 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so3812090wwi.4 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 12:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=a3NTMT5s0UwulvZJuIVACyTbo9I1rNaQzFc9/RXKX6c=; b=Uxj/9qIdM4EkRymQ51jy7gSF9qAqLMod6MOyP/I43fbPJ/8PpI8n6Lh0ASkpP2lAzt 203RKEWqWbbDZPBTflolC4avBEOYxmB/96hGtLcfXZ90i+mUQgU/kCRA3WBa6sA6W34u ErdGPSWz78zmV+MS+PAs4WycSb1flwa2i5I1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=kLn/A2W2CPKEJdV8wtAKDbadGxdjpWGXLejIBdu1jL5tgs2pQtzH1wM/Fw7q3Wx3FN Wz82VHhMf1BPFN9UkpuN8MBUlN2DLHjBLwoaRVetGH6VfbJJZIa00wifXHGsTsrCNTib Z0VwpYDi2N744pozSbEV0XjkYCpnKpkMlJBIw= Received: by 10.216.91.17 with SMTP id g17mr6395748wef.1.1306957871382; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 12:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.30.140 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:50:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201106011824.06028.dilfridge@gentoo.org> References: <4DD24EBE.5060002@gentoo.org> <201106011739.45691.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <201106011824.06028.dilfridge@gentoo.org> From: Nirbheek Chauhan Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 01:20:51 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PTFoUqbI-GUusMIeYRWObs30Jp4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: better policy for ChageLogs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 3d2e235a0059c020b8d4c4a268571632 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> So we come back to the problem being *CVS* not ChangeLog rules. > > Well of course we can just tell everyone "go look it up on sources.gentoo.org". > However, this is a different discussion. > sources.gentoo.org is a much worse (and slower) solution than cvs log. The main advantage of a ChangeLog (and of git) is that it allows you to check the history locally, without needing access to the network. >> All this is such a massive waste of time. Can't we just expend this >> energy on the move to git? > [snip] > We're not talking about future plans here but about the current situation. > And about how to deal with it. > The current situation is: (a) Not dire. (b) Not urgent. And if we decide, hey, let's move to git instead of having this discussion, the current situation is also: (c) A waste of everyone's time. So no, future plans are not independent of the current situation, and a move to git *is* a way to deal with the current situation. In effect, we kill (at least) two birds with one stone and prevent a lot of argument and bad blood. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team