From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OjUG8-0007dQ-Qj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:39:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B0DEE0964; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com (mail-qy0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DA8E0924 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so494815qyk.19 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:39:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WQcMYZp7sqrWy+t8E5KKw3JJGFli2yh1a7MqH+1w1h0=; b=qblsyqksLgg/lyigPfmOU/y8Y2QQanNK0u7Bx2/C7NtmJ8dGxgUHSiisZJJj2FWCQ+ cg3Oa6bjnmb3stf4e9r5cOSgKoEml1X5rXMvbyBiN8XLO2yjalU8sm0t2AxmV81c+mWq vUv2aVP89ELM91lpPwy2bJVupJsqWqCC23uQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OJaHCu4HGa6tthl5dFuuQ11wWnR5ih9eYdjezaL6/U1qNqNERWXQhz2rn+5IAVzVTA 7eteV46SoMgg04anuiiN84gXFtpzbmV269CCKCWQyoDXeSqJ/kqSF07WliCi/jaL0SBt TwoEJrH/0eOfparNUr3x91dJS1vD5I0DoJlu4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.251.79 with SMTP id mr15mr3880522qcb.37.1281605958171; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yngwin.gentoo@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.180.197 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:39:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201008121113.52775.bangert@gentoo.org> References: <20100807211559.GB21345@linux1> <201008121113.52775.bangert@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:39:18 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0ZdMbR7TvCPc7XIQqPqHSCTvQx4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 5aca8ae7-72ba-4ef8-9cfc-32a3d7ff27df X-Archives-Hash: 6852db04394cc2fd334f36a65e459ea0 On 12 August 2010 17:13, Thilo Bangert wrote: > Ben de Groot said: >> On 9 August 2010 14:29, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > sure would be nice if someone picked up the installer again ... >> >> No, it wouldn't. Best leave that dead and buried. > > Could you explain why you think so? 1) it was an experiment plagued by bugs, some *very* serious 2) the normal, "hands-on", follow the handbook, manual install has always been the recommended way to install Gentoo, and could be considered a rite of passage, familiarizing the user with how things are done in this distro 3) too few people are interested in developing, testing and maintaining this; making it more likely that a revival of this project will result in failure again 4) a buggy installer is a disservice to new users and can give them a false impression of Gentoo But that's just my opinion. :-) Cheers, Ben