From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-41479-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1OQvob-0007DP-7Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:14:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB2F8E0B3B; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2358CE0AD2 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so1164618vws.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=8z9hgDQfU/owLSwGgS8gE+gH67TMU+zVexWSIchJoYI=; b=WbVhZ3OA1pkX8px/u21EII1drSQfotuMuVj5tiyQfs7kWPYRXR3IOxmxNVrvrMhSfu 6ksWDE8Ien7xlpJTMlp9O8MBEEHDsLuyUoB8Mdx/3n12anXtq3GhbHD9WLYHQkm8VbgP pm6ncpmAt4KiLVq6CiHeAxLuTERtGlKEMAmtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=c70uwbr4VMHS+WRtfU18SIBl//IgIUk0JjGGprG1GDU1lsKYlgpLWJ9yIqG3zr3r4+ yeaY5+3pNK0ZWy8+LSs4p0F9vLURpwAptTBJLNB53ZzOV+Hh0yxJs0SetOklPJOt1xpM lyOo7MhAscUgiDm6yDtktHn7cOS+MIfzYSoug= Received: by 10.220.89.142 with SMTP id e14mr2844312vcm.54.1277183642338; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: arunissatan@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.203.70 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:13:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C1FDB72.3020609@gentoo.org> References: <1276977363.2635.0@NeddySeagoon> <4C1F9460.2020803@gentoo.org> <AANLkTiktRXmwWLkiFIQBN-ktb22utMahwxxOEtRDppdR@mail.gmail.com> <4C1FDB72.3020609@gentoo.org> From: Arun Raghavan <ford_prefect@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:43:42 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tzbE8kG7A-ldV8D41jRho0YzDww Message-ID: <AANLkTilkN7w0rz5628wtVPyI3HYTmRB_sAMylCnNdhu9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 84e7f27d-02d5-441a-ba4f-9d7338bb110d X-Archives-Hash: 4d56120829c8a6b3e558aa7c251ff2d5 On 22 June 2010 03:06, Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wrote: > Arun, > > > On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote: >>> My manifesto up here now: >>> http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt >> >> For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how >> you intend to tackle the problem, could you please elaborate? > > please take your time to formulate concrete questions. On reading again, you do have suggestions on how you would deal with most of what you've spoken. The only one that I think could use more details (other than all the references to "tone" which I think we should let rest for a while) is "Opening up documentation" - do you have any ideas for this process that might help with this while maintaining the quality the docs team has maintained thus far? As a follow up question, for documentation, PR, the website redesign, and templates, do you feel that these are tasks that need to be addressed by council members? Is there anything preventing you from taking the ball and running with it if you don't get elected into the council? And another one for "More direct democracy": a) How would you decide what questions go up for public vote and which ones stay with the council? b) For questions like "- Should Python 3.x be stable?", isn't that for team leads to decide? And for the council to resolve in case of conflicts? c) For questions like "- Should developer X be banned?", would you be willing to do this if it meant a lot of washing of dirty linen in public, or protracted flamewars (and other reasons why we have a bunch of level-headed people in place to deal with this calmly and quietly)? If no, where would you draw the line? If yes, how would you deal with the fallout? Regards, -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)