From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OVcQ3-0000Uy-06 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 03:32:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CB7FE0B32; Mon, 5 Jul 2010 03:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACD7E0AB0 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2010 03:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so584805gxk.40 for ; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tl1LEh47XxmW0zl0FKioLQJIq7Be6cu7hJf0P9yki7Q=; b=CzK6b9Gtf6qKoAHMlLHmdB37Ht0oChsQL4fK4ERGn22VKoxW3JOR3ce3noed/IpenF xmsONjrxFve+SuY1s4SA47fSWYnGGWZt6QxLZ1YGbtTSfRYom9F/Ng1xQvyRjwpTeb1/ nkROiDtlyD4WxhXVfKln1n1EKxOKkE3yoWtCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rwT2tbDPYY+Hg5DbenghJSyz36iZxsj1lvDKTCA8GjzjA7b6Phw3vEf6NBV0vXhmSS UMFkuSCzjgcIFw40MToX+XVvuXZmBmvPnlu+6gp8sm4zSq5PNW37WWJza6dYAsXdpNc5 8psubEcQZAY6U16/4ErRzbHIyH3v6jcvKkrkw= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.81.7 with SMTP id e7mr2528835agb.109.1278300739956; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.151.10.11 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:32:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C314233.8030809@gentoo.org> References: <201007041630.07537.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20100704133949.0cda055a@gentoo.org> <4C30EA89.4020806@gentoo.org> <4C314233.8030809@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:02:19 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kekCRJ278sYd1JlhLJ3hX1QPCnk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo From: Nirbheek Chauhan To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 1c6ea2f1-1516-4c55-8fd6-c988ad10a79b X-Archives-Hash: 512fd08ba30affde0e9e12392b202a42 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Richard Freeman wrote: > On 07/04/2010 04:09 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote: >> >> For those of you not on the #gentoo-dev channel, I just announced I am >> gonna be looking at the openrc code and fixing the bugs and working to >> continue the development. Anyone that is interested in helping please >> feel free to contact me off list to discuss how we will handle getting >> openrc back on track. >> > > Well, openrc isn't any worse than baselayout-1 for upstream support. > However, I do agree that we should strongly try to standardize on somethi= ng > that is more cross-platform if possible. > > I'd rather not push to make openrc stable (which means lots of migration = for > users), only to then move to something else anyway. =C2=A0Why have two mi= grations > when you can just have one? > The reason why people want to do an openrc migration right now is because we don't know when we'll find something else to move to; make it work with gentoo, make it work for everyone, iron out all the bugs, and push it to stable. In all probability, and looking at our past experience with pushing openrc to stable, it *will* take years. It's too much work to maintain both baselayout-1 *and* openrc *and* find something else to move to. It's best to move to openrc (which has numerous benefits over baselayout-1, and has a maintainer now), and then see what we can do. --=20 ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team