[gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[Rafael Goncalves Martins]

Hi all,

as said in my blog post [1], I'm planing to improve our support to the
Lua [2] programming language, adding packages for the libraries and
the related software. Actually we already have some libraries on the
tree but they are spread in some categories like dev-lang and
dev-libs.

I think that a first step should be create a new category, maybe
called dev-lua, for all the Lua related stuff.

Are any of you against the creation of this new category?

[1] http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/en-us/post/lua-libraries-on-gentoo/
[2] http://www.lua.org/

Best regards,

-- 
Rafael Goncalves Martins
Gentoo Linux developer
http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

["Paweł Hajdan, Jr."]

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On 11/2/10 4:24 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote:
> I think that a first step should be create a new category, maybe
> called dev-lua, for all the Lua related stuff.

Just checking: how many packages would be in the new category?

Generally sounds good.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[Rafael Goncalves Martins]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:09 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
<phajdan.jr@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 11/2/10 4:24 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote:
>> I think that a first step should be create a new category, maybe
>> called dev-lua, for all the Lua related stuff.
>
> Just checking: how many packages would be in the new category?
>

From a quick search, the packages are:

dev-lang/luarocks
dev-lang/toluapp
dev-libs/luaevent-prosody
dev-libs/luaexpat
dev-libs/luafilesystem
dev-libs/luasec
dev-libs/luasocket
dev-util/luadoc

but as I'm planning to add more soon, should be good to fix this now,
when will be pretty easy to fix the reverse dependencies.

Best regards,

-- 
Rafael Goncalves Martins
Gentoo Linux developer
http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[Dirkjan Ochtman]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 04:24, Rafael Goncalves Martins
<rafaelmartins@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I think that a first step should be create a new category, maybe
> called dev-lua, for all the Lua related stuff.

+1.

Cheers,

Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 08:09 Tue 02 Nov     , "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> On 11/2/10 4:24 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote:
> > I think that a first step should be create a new category, maybe
> > called dev-lua, for all the Lua related stuff.
> 
> Just checking: how many packages would be in the new category?

In case anyone was wondering, I wanted to check how many packages 
typically showed up in a category. Here's a histogram of the 
distribution. The number of packages are in column 1, and the number of 
categories having that many packages are in column 2 (bin size 10, 
number shown ±5).

To summarize, half the categories have 10-50 packages, then there are a 
number of huge ones. If you can get at least 15 packages, it's a 
reasonable starting point for a new category.

5	5
15	19
25	15
35	21
45	14
55	9
65	7
75	10
85	9
95	2
105	7
115	1
125	4
135	4
145	1
165	1
185	4
195	1
205	1
215	1
225	1
245	2
255	1
265	3
295	2
345	2
355	2
375	1
485	1
545	1
985	1


-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[Rafael Goncalves Martins]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 08:09 Tue 02 Nov     , "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
>> On 11/2/10 4:24 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote:
>> > I think that a first step should be create a new category, maybe
>> > called dev-lua, for all the Lua related stuff.
>>
>> Just checking: how many packages would be in the new category?
>
> In case anyone was wondering, I wanted to check how many packages
> typically showed up in a category. Here's a histogram of the
> distribution. The number of packages are in column 1, and the number of
> categories having that many packages are in column 2 (bin size 10,
> number shown ±5).
>
> To summarize, half the categories have 10-50 packages, then there are a
> number of huge ones. If you can get at least 15 packages, it's a
> reasonable starting point for a new category.
>
> 5       5
> 15      19
> 25      15
> 35      21
> 45      14
> 55      9
> 65      7
> 75      10
> 85      9
> 95      2
> 105     7
> 115     1
> 125     4
> 135     4
> 145     1
> 165     1
> 185     4
> 195     1
> 205     1
> 215     1
> 225     1
> 245     2
> 255     1
> 265     3
> 295     2
> 345     2
> 355     2
> 375     1
> 485     1
> 545     1
> 985     1
>

Hi Donnie,

thanks for the stats.

I'm just wondering if it's worth add the packages now, before create
the new category, and have more packages to fix when creating the new
category.

Best regards,

-- 
Rafael Goncalves Martins
Gentoo Linux developer
http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for Lua related packages

[Kfir Lavi]

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>
> To summarize, half the categories have 10-50 packages, then there are a
> number of huge ones. If you can get at least 15 packages, it's a
> reasonable starting point for a new category.
>

I wouldn't have a limit like 15 on it. My first thought for checking Lua is
looking in /usr/portage/dev-lua
It is a behavior exactly as people would expect.

I would go for it .... Include my +1 ;-)

Kfir

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[gentoo-dev] Re: New category for Lua related packages

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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Il giorno mer, 03/11/2010 alle 18.46 -0200, Rafael Goncalves Martins ha
scritto:
> 
> 
> I'm just wondering if it's worth add the packages now, before create
> the new category, and have more packages to fix when creating the new
> category. 

Create the category before adding the packages. pkgmoves are expensive
operations especially for those of us who use binary packages :)

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http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category for Lua related packages

[Rafael Goncalves Martins]

I've just created a tracker bug [1] and CC'd the affected maintainers.

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344229

Best regards,

-- 
Rafael Goncalves Martins
Gentoo Linux developer
http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category for Lua related packages

[Rafael Goncalves Martins]

Looks like the new category is created and the packages are moved!

If you have some issue with the pkgmoves, please reopen the tracker
bug,open a new bug and make the tracker depends on it.

Thanks guys! :)

-- 
Rafael Goncalves Martins
Gentoo Linux developer
http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/