From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:03:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikN2wK7oXKnKp1wsk8wbqRPMtnVO-NvfcbO_iJi@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100619185906.72367d63@snowcone>
On 19 June 2010 19:59, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:54:25 +0200
> Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> This is a point that deserves more consideration. One of the top
>> reasons (as witnessed in forum discussions)
>
> Unfortunately, that's selecting a rather biased audience. The success
> of a forum depends upon the number of active posters it has. The number
> of active posters it has depends upon how many people need to post
> there to get answers to questions, and how many wrong answers have to
> be given before the right answer comes up. Thus, by selecting from the
> forums, you're picking an audience that likes talking endlessly about
> communities, not one that likes to answer a question once, correctly,
> and then change things so the question doesn't need to be answered
> again.
That is an incredibly shortsighted and cynic look at the community.
Keep it off this list.
>> Does Gentoo really prefer to keep more sensitive people out instead
>> of effectively getting rid of repeat offenders?
>
> All bringing more sensitive people in does is cripples the
> distribution's ability to delivery any technical improvements, since
> everyone's time is wasted worrying about the whiners
Not at all. Instead of wasting time on flamewars, and people getting
upset and leaving because of the attacks, we'd have a bunch of people
who would know how to work together in a friendly way. That speeds up
the process to come to technical improvements. Once again: keep your
cynic, twisted look off this list. We have no use for it.
>> Think about it. What kind of people would you rather have in Gentoo?
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Gentoo start having the kinds of people who
> deliver a better product, not the kinds of people who worry that using
> a gender-ambiguous cow as a logo might be offensive.
Once again you are derailing the conversation. Nobody brought up
anything about a logo.
It is about whether Gentoo wants to keep around people like you, who
continually attack others, or whether it prefers to have people who
want to work together in a friendlier atmosphere. A smoother
cooperation is in the interest of technical improvements too.
There already is a distro that works like you envision it. It's called
Exherbo. You should try it, you might like it. I would suggest you
spend your time and energy on that, and leave Gentoo to do things the
friendlier way.
Cheers,
Ben
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-16 3:33 [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 3:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-06-16 5:03 ` Alec Warner
2010-06-17 0:14 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-17 0:32 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 9:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-17 9:58 ` Auke Booij
2010-06-17 10:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-17 10:17 ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 10:01 ` Dale
2010-06-17 10:08 ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 10:15 ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 10:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-17 10:26 ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 12:51 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 2:08 ` Jacob Godserv
2010-06-16 5:43 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-16 15:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-06-16 18:18 ` Alec Warner
2010-06-16 18:47 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-06-16 22:55 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 19:31 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-17 0:02 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 19:40 ` Roy Bamford
2010-06-16 22:33 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 5:47 ` Duncan
2010-06-17 19:29 ` Roy Bamford
2010-06-18 3:43 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-19 2:51 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 22:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 3:24 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-17 12:20 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 17:33 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-16 16:39 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-16 17:07 ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-16 22:44 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 22:47 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 22:58 ` Steve Dibb
2010-06-17 6:59 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-17 0:01 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-17 0:17 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 0:43 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-17 1:13 ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-17 6:46 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-17 4:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-06-19 2:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 3:20 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-19 4:35 ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-19 9:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-06-19 9:37 ` Brian Harring
2010-06-19 16:33 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 14:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 14:58 ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-06-19 15:34 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-19 16:02 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 17:07 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-19 17:50 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2010-06-19 18:23 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 20:38 ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-19 4:45 ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-06-19 16:15 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 17:06 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-19 17:40 ` Richard Freeman
2010-06-19 19:10 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-21 0:00 ` Richard Freeman
2010-06-21 4:39 ` Arun Raghavan
2010-06-19 6:43 ` Patrick Lauer
2010-06-19 7:10 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-19 9:32 ` Matti Bickel
2010-06-19 10:54 ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-19 17:44 ` Richard Freeman
2010-06-19 17:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-19 18:57 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 19:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-19 19:37 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 21:03 ` Ben de Groot [this message]
2010-06-19 21:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-19 21:48 ` Patrick Lauer
2010-06-19 21:57 ` David Leverton
2010-06-19 22:01 ` Patrick Lauer
2010-06-19 22:13 ` David Leverton
2010-06-19 22:05 ` Domen Kožar
2010-06-19 22:18 ` David Leverton
2010-06-19 18:17 ` Dale
2010-06-19 16:20 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 21:27 ` Patrick Lauer
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