From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3sg1-0005t6-K1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:18:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7302E1C01B; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D491C003 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so2206350wyi.40 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zhqEUPCAOX07itX2G7HPe5WdcXcKUAwQ4ZFJIW0mB/k=; b=MpwV9EsUHFgLYMMwU9VgiPgscbRH/a+e11Ke6/sS/wTmk8Y+MDm+GC93sp22o7fRNp eQFDJxnXWLahfURjXHIuRrMhbFSVzi5Qz3OAoGoBpUL3b7Lq07gNQLtzQfe+xxt1FkvY XAV4q+A+oJXVzL/N6FeBjs2X+BmTrUu2myIgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VazHTcTHTVTgMlWNC7tAJWdp5mSbuzHqnzHQ9EwzqVoeo3DOmgIbtyyrMOlCJgqSHi M/PtzNV+0Bi3qSwzUbLmKnev2U+5oJIs/QtHaZtuN7PDiOQ72KjuAQrMpCilvtohq3Xn olib23l4bOC+c46Og6TDvkJCu/8SsphGIfV5s= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.58.72 with SMTP id f8mr2981400wbh.181.1301242694662; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.147.82 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.147.82 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D8F4F93.6030507@gentoo.org> References: <20110326055210.E906D20054@flycatcher.gentoo.org> <4D8EC104.4090503@gentoo.org> <4D8F3BE8.5050300@gentoo.org> <4D8F4F93.6030507@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:18:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Nn6bvHh2Th-L15HOIRpmBV6fUco Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3001b43194fc55049f792c19 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e75cf12c2772979550dd4c76eb7d8c51 --20cf3001b43194fc55049f792c19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 27, 2011 11:01 AM, "Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal" wrote: > And how exactly you want to track the level of failure for the package? > Since nobody is watching them already we usually don't know how much > they fail until somebody tries to emerge them from dev team or notify QA > by adding as CC to bug... If a tree falls in the forest...does anybody care? Broken packages that nobody notices don't cost us much. A tinderbox sweep will id and tag them for cleaning eventually. All I'm saying is that the problem is broken packages, so address those, m-= n or otherwise. By all means be proactive about finding maintainers, but let's not go purging working packages. As far as how broken is too broken - if it causes the distro headaches, address it. That could be blockers, or tons of bug reports, or whatever... Rich --20cf3001b43194fc55049f792c19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mar 27, 2011 11:01 AM, "Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal" <<= a href=3D"mailto:scarabeus@gentoo.org">scarabeus@gentoo.org> wrote:<= br> > And how exactly you want to track the level of failure for the package= ?
> Since nobody is watching them already we usually don't know how mu= ch
> they fail until somebody tries to emerge them from dev team or notify = QA
> by adding as CC to bug...

If a tree falls in the forest...does anybody care?

Broken packages that nobody notices don't cost us much. A tinderbox = sweep will id and tag them for cleaning eventually.

All I'm saying is that the problem is broken packages, so address th= ose, m-n or otherwise.

By all means be proactive about finding maintainers, but let's not g= o purging working packages.=C2=A0

As far as how broken is too broken - if it causes the distro headaches, = address it. That could be blockers, or tons of bug reports, or whatever...<= /p>

Rich

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