From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OjbNO-0004cI-Ka for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:15:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93E98E09FB; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99655E09EB for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so1085373fxm.40 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mpg8V9KA9ylOz5hVzTh4BeeaL2aFVLInu6rWhEcHI+w=; b=TvEzAkIFbo+MX6pEqibKrSyrC/BxkTsLyxEFGt2CecwitOCt1K+QT2ArE/i1pfwgUO fvITyRi52QcZO36mmSZjilTdg0dSPRKJVO94KuByG4A6nZ5ia6Bgn2iYJ8mgbLfrhNe8 0KqIufQbkctb4AKoMRMdDuNA0/3z8qEk3yc3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=m5/rT1tYdjLqZPv6qmTS1QZE9IHhY4sxV5nnn8JHiLN5oBntdKVvLACQXzwiTNlZ3p u7oHdEtB+ZGQMyl52zUFHB+nlbuNfp4LdWZbyQv7j0pZJ/kYQa1b+nDPQXnAQ6NhzRmX lyZsIvii1NeHB451MzvltmbZTbyk3fj0y35NA= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.148 with SMTP id l20mr533524far.84.1281633292967; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vapierfilter@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.109.134 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:14:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100807211559.GB21345@linux1> <201008121113.52775.bangert@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:14:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LDlCj72i_1JMZIrnYyBYaNTf56Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project From: Mike Frysinger To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f18b9f47-b1b3-4f83-9096-9ee2e4de552f X-Archives-Hash: 18307b19e164dc1b91d8f6d13ee746be On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > 1) I assume most people who are crazy enough to 'install gentoo on > thousands of machines' use some kind of image based installation > process and not a color-by-numbers install vis-a-vis the handbook? > Has anyone written a Gentoo installer that is not image based? > 1.5) There is a hidden assumption here that image based installations > would not work for everyone (likely due to a lack of the 'right' > image; too old, wrong arch, etc...) > 2) Has anyone looked at just taking an existing installation framework > (d-i? kickstart?) and just making it run different stuff? =A0I honestly > have not looked at either (someone else at work does that thank god) > but it can't be outside of the realm of impossibility... i dont particularly care what installer we utilize, it'd just be nice to have a helpful gui/curses based approach available as an option. i have toyed with anaconda in the past, but my personal experience has been that our gui python one was better. that and the insistence on redhat-only tools (like rpm) is obnoxious. -mike