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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?
  @ 2010-04-11  2:30 99%                     ` Richard Freeman
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From: Richard Freeman @ 2010-04-11  2:30 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On 04/10/2010 07:44 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 11 April 2010 00:54, Denis Dupeyron<calchan@gentoo.org>  wrote:
>> I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is
>> part of fixing them.
>
> Except when someone else does it, then calling the problem of lack of
> leadership suddenly becomes "immature political ranting". Nice try.
>

You know, leadership can be as much about NOT replying to an email as 
replying to one...  :)

You don't need to be elected to the council to be a leader.  I'd say 
that with very few exceptions those who have been on the council were 
elected because a majority of devs recognize that they have been leaders.

I can certainly say that they have put in a lot more time than most 
reading this list, and it really isn't anybody's place to lecture them 
on being leaders as a result.  If somebody really thinks they have 
constructive advice then make it constructive, or at least send it in 
private to council@g.o.

If there is ANYBODY here who actually intends to lift a finger to 
actually do work to rectify these problems, by all means contact the 
appropriate project lead or the council or something and ask how to 
pitch in and help.  Based on Patteri's post it sounds like you can feel 
free to ping him on irc/email if you're looking for something to do.

And let's try to remember that we're all in it together - infighting 
isn't going to inspire more people to join the cause...

Rich



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2010-04-10 13:53     [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead? Petteri Räty
2010-04-10 20:17     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10 20:56       ` Petteri Räty
2010-04-10 21:18         ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10 21:23           ` Petteri Räty
2010-04-10 21:37             ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10 21:43               ` Petteri Räty
2010-04-10 22:06                 ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-04-10 22:10                   ` Petteri Räty
2010-04-10 22:54                     ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-04-10 23:44                       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-11  2:30 99%                     ` Richard Freeman

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