* Re: [gentoo-dev] Wishlist: an automated package upgrade system with fine-tunable sysadmin control
@ 2006-04-26 17:04 99% ` Chris Gianelloni
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From: Chris Gianelloni @ 2006-04-26 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 12:29 -0400, Kevin wrote:
> One thing that I'm pretty sure is currently not possible with portage,
> however, and that I'd definitely like to see as a part of this idea is a
> way of setting thresholds on version numbers of packages in portage such
> that the automated upgrade system will only upgrade a package
> automatically if the difference in version numbers between the installed
> package and the newest available package in portage is greater than some
> admin-tunable amount. For example, I might not want to upgrade emacs or
> xemacs just because a new -r number becomes available. Maybe I don't
> want to have such a big package upgraded automatically unless there is a
> new major or minor version number.
>
> Thanks again to all the developers who have made Gentoo. It's a really
> terrific distro.
Jakub meant the portage-devel mailing list, not this one.
Anyway, most of this can be done already using /etc/portage files and
some well-written cron scripts. You can lock down versions of specific
packages quite easily using your own package.mask and package.unmask
files, along with package.keywords. However, one thing you can *never*
do is assume that *any* package that has *any* kind of configuration
files or is a library will *never* change in an incompatible way.
Basically, what you want is the assurances of a binary distribution that
things will "just work" when upgraded, yet you still want the power of
Gentoo. Honestly, I don't see portage ever being able to really support
anything like this so long as the tree continues to change. It simply
doesn't seem to be compatible with how Gentoo development is done. Then
again, I could be completely off my rocker and the portage team might
already have all of this implemented in some super-secret internal-only
version. As I said, this would probably be best conversed with them on
the portage-devel list.
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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux
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