* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About current ppc/ppc64 status
@ 2014-08-01 8:52 99% ` Raúl Porcel
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From: Raúl Porcel @ 2014-08-01 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 07/26/14 19:33, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 07/27/2014 03:19 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> If an arch team isn't going to honor a stable request, shouldn't they
>> remove themselves from it and say so?
>>
>> Also, if an arch team does that, does that mean we don't have to file
>> stable requests for that arch on future versions of the package?
>
> When armin did stabilisation for minor archs in the past, he took the
> opportunity to evaluate whether it was still useful to have the package
> stable. In many cases for small random packages, stable keywords were
> dropped to reduce future workload. I always thought it was a pretty good
> strategy.
>
>
Indeed! The thing was that a lot of the packages were keyworded and
marked stable back in the day where the arch was more popular.
But almost all arches except amd64/x86/arm are getting less and less
popular:
alpha: no new hardware in more than 8+ years
hppa: being phased out IIRC, and no new workstations(ie, graphics/sound)
in 5+ years
ia64: no new workstations in 10 years, new servers are expensive
ppc*: new workstations are expensive
sparc: no new workstations in 7+ years, new servers expensive
One of the reasons they are being killed, IMHO, its that the power
consumption isn't worth, and an amd64 machine is pretty much more
powerful, has more cores, and cheaper and has a lot less power consumption.
My Sun Blade 1000 (workstation) uses 225W idling, my amd64 workstation
uses 100W at full power or so. And the amd64 has way more cores and more
performance. And let's not talk about the heat...
Besides there's software like firefox and gnome3 that doesn't work in
sparc due to unaligned accesses.
Debian announced some months ago that they're dropping sparc support as
well. Right now debian doesn't support, officially, alpha, hppa and sparc.
Obviously ppc* has a lot of work because its the most keyworded arch
behind amd64 and x86.
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