* Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system
@ 2005-04-24 18:45 99% ` Anthony de Boer
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From: Anthony de Boer @ 2005-04-24 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Alin Nastac wrote:
> when was the last time you used ed? it is a completely useless editor,
> peeps use vim instead.
I use "vi", not "vim", though of course the former is a symlink to the
latter on Linux systems for the last number of years.
Last time I used ed was on an RH system with a broken /usr mount; vi
was on that partition, but ed lived in /bin, so I used it to fix
/etc/fstab. Using ed is like riding a bicycle; you remember pretty
quickly how to use it. But then, I've been using Unix since halfway
back to the Epoch.
> anyway, who says you cannot install ed if you want it so bad?
I don't think Larry The Cow wants some group of people deciding that
all Gentoo users have to get exactly a certain set of tools. The
embedded folk have everything they need if it boots at all, prettymuch.
I'd want to have all the traditional Unix stuff available as a baseline,
while someone coming to Linux for the first time in 2005 might never
want to bother with some of the tools of that older generation.
Possibly there should be a "tradunix" ebuild that pulls in all the
traditional Unix stuff as dependencies (and is otherwise empty), and
similarly for other sets of things people hold dear, just to act as
macros when you're setting up a system.
The baseline should be as barebones as possible. Offering a set of
things useful to the new user is a useful default, but should be only
that, not a set of things you have to accept if you want to pick and
choose stuff yourself.
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