From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 647CB138334 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 11:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96EB0E08BF; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 11:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 003F3E08AE for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 11:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([212.159.46.162]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [213.165.67.115]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MwPfX-1jfwIp1GdR-00sPKJ for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2020 12:25:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywordreqs and slacking arch teams To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <2B1E46E2-A1D6-4EAB-962E-FEB258B815A3@gentoo.org> <9177847.t7M2BhH1to@daneel.sf-tec.de> <1605332.Fl7cRXTQUm@daneel.sf-tec.de> From: Michael 'veremitz' Everitt Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=gentoo@veremit.xyz; 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boundary="hbmYdxwA2nxvpR5N7g87X5mCgz6Qouiut"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael 'veremitz' Everitt To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <9f546d3e-abcf-2f91-8138-69c94ed2521a@veremit.xyz> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywordreqs and slacking arch teams References: <2B1E46E2-A1D6-4EAB-962E-FEB258B815A3@gentoo.org> <9177847.t7M2BhH1to@daneel.sf-tec.de> <1605332.Fl7cRXTQUm@daneel.sf-tec.de> In-Reply-To: <1605332.Fl7cRXTQUm@daneel.sf-tec.de> --hbmYdxwA2nxvpR5N7g87X5mCgz6Qouiut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB On 04/01/20 11:09, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2020, 11:00:14 CET schrieb Rolf Eike Beer: >> Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2020, 03:40:35 CET schrieb Aaron Bauman: >>> On January 2, 2020 6:35:08 PM EST, Rolf Eike Beer w= rote: >>>> Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2020, 00:25:06 CET schrieb Mike Pagano: >>>>> hppa is making us keep old kernels around [1]. Should the kernel t= eam >>>>> be >>>>> doing more to get your attention then CC'ing hppa on all of the ker= nel >>>>> STABLEREQ bugs [2]? >>>> I only run vanilla-sources since there are still lot of cache >>>> corruption >>>> problems in hppa kernels, or whatever makes them flaky. >>>> >>>> Linux pioneer 5.4.6-parisc64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 27 10:23:09 CET 2019 par= isc64 >>>> PA8800 (Mako) 9000/785/C8000 GNU/Linux >>>> Linux voyager 5.4.6-parisc #1 Fri Dec 27 15:46:43 CET 2019 parisc PA= 8600 >>>> (PCX-W+) 9000/785/C3600 GNU/Linux >>>> >>>> So _I_ personally would say just drop old kernels, but that is in no= >>>> way >>>> authorative. >>> Ugh. gentoo-sources is just a patch (trivial) on top of vanilla-kerne= l >>> sources of each stable and LTS version. >> If it's just that I could test them, but this still be no LTS version = that I >> would look at. > So, do you want me to stable a random gentoo-sources (usually the most = recent=20 > one) every few weeks when I just happen to upgrade my machine? > > Eike I don't think that works very well with kernel/security-team stabilisatio= n policies, sadly. Is there any possibility you would be able to do a stabilisation run, and= do a reboot cycle on one LTS branch (of choice, eg. most recent) and then= revert to your preferred kernel afterwards? I appreciate this is a rather onerous process on older hardware, but just= trying to think of some form of semi-compromise that prevents potential de-keywording, without also suggesting that something that genuinely has issues is either (1) working or (2) supported, if so. I believe Whissi is leading kernel stabilisation requests, on behalf of security- and kernel- teams, so maybe a chat with him may be fruitful. 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