From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MeJem-0006r5-Rw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:15:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37D09E0285; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DD7E0285 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so351762and.1 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:15:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sp9uhXmvDZfMkGKjX6BT2oOlGAxO4W3LUaCe67im5GA=; b=dxY6VIMKz7L5rN2u73LIz+RWniyNbjD2uDYY26RjFcpm0g0ZWF6UPzILaUIkCH9nh7 DWWRDzGTT02mhUGnrWS2mZvvAMDKuedRpC0ERifm1xYJ6gNaytj7Guatn2a3upK61wJV Uv7u9Ze54fWMbtg9abrV0B0g6vWvPsh81a4Ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TovMj93UJrKfHCZL4nHI+rVV/Mz7VBuIysj6AvDEHZoHsf9XXw/Ey2geXW49HjjmGf BOx5i4rJkXmZAKUaOzcBfPnKunMgukizP240e+8Gpb2DlkBWklkSp0Is/rNExZZwbtNY JnET8UdF5hcKz8XGlp2wOYPUtXJNdMu7np8uU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.165.2 with SMTP id s2mr608063ano.16.1250820906589; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:15:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2915979.scyzOdHmJ5@news.friendly-coders.info> References: <90b936c0908121058y5fd25cfcm67a19761b1130896@mail.gmail.com> <20090813135658.2d497f7b@snowcone> <44655500.sygxnxrhqW@news.friendly-coders.info> <20090813193451.31961a95@snowcone> <3865504.XFPclIEk6a@news.friendly-coders.info> <4A8A447F.5050708@gentoo.org> <12148931.hacUC6rHWN@news.friendly-coders.info> <4A8D21E7.2040604@trelane.net> <20090820155213.13474b14@snowcone> <2915979.scyzOdHmJ5@news.friendly-coders.info> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:15:06 -0700 Message-ID: <9f2790160908201915lb45861djc5e3d298c571f5c9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' From: Chip Parker To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2141ff03-6370-4d2a-ab4b-eb46fbcc28a8 X-Archives-Hash: 7a0bf8bdc645d049dd136bef732da2b1 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Steven J Long wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> I look forward to seeing Funtoo's creation of EAPI funtoo-2. >> > Well judging by your EAPI-2, I'd prefer it. Apart from USE-deps, there's > been no discussion apart from under your supervision on bugzie. > nonfatal? (or w/e it's called.) Who came up with that idea, and why did you > ignore the --or-die option that's already been discussed? > > If you want exceptions, try C++ (better than you're currently doing.) This > is shellscript. > > I'd like to moot to the Council that we hold off on EAPI-2 profiles, and go > with EAPI-1 plus USE-deps and BASH-3.2_p17 (honestly, you thought 4 was > ready?!) til we get this mess sorted. > How about we just ignore ciaranm because he's got no valid complaints or objections to this particular portage behavior as shown in https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273261#c28. Relevant portion excerpted here for your convenience: "Additionally, in http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/portage/main/trunk/pym/portage.py?rev=3495&view=markup (hint: look for "recursive=1") and http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133740, with both predating the initial RFC for PMS sent to gentoo-dev mailing list, this behavior is discussed and shown to be a design feature, not a flaw or lack of QA in portage. This proves with certainty that it is PMS and the views of the reporter of this bug that are flawed, and not the behavior of portage." Problem solved.