From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-30410-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1JndIJ-0007xH-Ap for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:25:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59E0FE0404; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18802E0404 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j3so509207ugf.49 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Rr9DE5+G5r9T/GKfyi2MKQpNeg85QRhK77NNzO+kCj8=; b=ctP/v3GvtP4YR0vQKeVrn8YD70h2JBcsMr7Gf13O0uIdOB80TFtAPRi3i41SnWTqw49J+TUiD7VN6C1ftGkck3f1DBREH5ML1EHmH9vBKD9xEPsK/mF3dbMkVj5J0I44mecuqFPx49crTtbg4AAX41hktHxi+xEUCTQF5b9IJEA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=hD4Rj0we0pv2TgkkYAlXkwcAh0EZ9zxyh/eOXKcdPvOhxVcvmy9n6R6msYZaqWIq+bQKK9B46k9dOgUGJeVE5gevoQfFJgBFyx5d+rPw9whJMXJXFD9ikzol3OCuRmNag4ghuPHO6VP7W5ZfhYmJN/FJ2c7/RKrFFzwntjnGgOk= Received: by 10.67.115.19 with SMTP id s19mr4081505ugm.70.1208712336635; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.225.9 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e0cf0bf0804201025t66dac84frffe91f09c6098d7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:25:36 +0300 From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@gentoo.org> Sender: alon.barlev@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: keyring In-Reply-To: <1208711656.13942.3.camel@keitaro.perronet.esiee.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1208702743.15500.4.camel@marx> <1208711656.13942.3.camel@keitaro.perronet.esiee.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 970510e39f087bd5 X-Archives-Salt: 34f19457-afef-4f03-bf1e-4531e63289de X-Archives-Hash: f8bcdcd42c35545a6deceed1fda9098f On 4/20/08, Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org> wrote: > for what it's worth, as a gnome dev I didn't see any convincing > arguments as to why it should be renamed. Gnome makes things optional > for other to reuse (like xfce) but afaik no other "keyring" like > programs are optional deps of another package in portage. Let's not cast > a simple change into breakage for users already using it (even in > stable, and yes I'm lazy :D). Lazy is the word. I cannot argue with this one, I just know that it won't be the gnome herd who do the work when the time come to fix this (resolve conflict). The gnome herd will re-introduce the lazy ticket, and make other herd use yet another confusing USE flag. This is not the right way to maintain long term constants. You asked for objections... You got some. You can leave this local USE flag, and stay with generic term. Or you can rename it when it goes global so it have proper name. You can also ignore this and force gnome onto all users. Alon. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list