From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFF87138334 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 17:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAAF1E082B; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 17:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59D91E0825 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 17:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (c134-66.icpnet.pl [85.221.134.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEE2A34BA47; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 17:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9bf51c1922869dcd85c0c6ffeb427ff9b744c39b.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin' From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 19:38:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20191012110023.165840-1-soap@gentoo.org> <1bbad081be57654e20e590734ed8aa88dc6f6176.camel@gentoo.org> <20191012160228.GA2481@linux1.home> <25763900.3IMS5cSOPn@ernie> <86031cc11741c13b354ad85577a1e32c4ca97460.camel@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-914hnwrDdYSM+rrpzrNT" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 96429875-dfda-48d3-9b44-8cb0d3d07721 X-Archives-Hash: 158cb8fd27f98605c2fb4ef92161e447 --=-914hnwrDdYSM+rrpzrNT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:43 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:33 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert wrote: > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > > > > > > > * Some distros have not just merged / and /usr, they > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > have also merged /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. By giving > > > > > > > users the choice of merging */bin and */sbin, > > > > > > > Gentoo follows suit. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > What about the scenario when /bin has been merged with /usr/sbi= n > > > > > > and /sbin with /usr/bin? ;-P > > > > >=20 > > > > > I also don't see the need for something like this. The idea of th= e > > > > > /usr > > > > > merge is to have all binaries available in one place, and there > > > > > really > > > > > is not a good justification for separating bin from sbin. > > > >=20 > > > > Do I read this correctly? USE=3D-split-usr currently means that /b= in, > > > > /sbin, / > > > > usr/bin and /usr/sbin point to the same directory? > > > >=20 > > > > If that is not the case, then I agree that users should have the > > > > possibility > > > > to set it up like this and USE=3D-split-sbin should be supported. > > > >=20 > > > > --Dennis > > >=20 > > > I agree, I wasn't aware that USE=3D-split-usr implies the complete 2- > > > level (/usr and *sbin) merge. In that case, all of this is obsolete. > >=20 > > That was NOT my intention when I introduced the split-usr USE flag. > >=20 > > For bin/sbin, I would prefer to drop any conflicting links > > unconditionally. Do you have examples of scenarios where this is not > > possible? >=20 > I guess more generally, I would like to know how you see this USE flag > being used. >=20 > I have some guidelines for split-usr on my devspace (needs a home on the = wiki). >=20 > https://dev.gentoo.org/~floppym/split-usr.txt Or devmanual. Would be nice to finally start having all the fancy policies there. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-914hnwrDdYSM+rrpzrNT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAABCgB9FiEEx2qEUJQJjSjMiybFY5ra4jKeJA4FAl2jYRxfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM3 NkE4NDUwOTQwOThEMjhDQzhCMjZDNTYzOUFEQUUyMzI5RTI0MEUACgkQY5ra4jKe JA6MLgf/enxxGKHvfSC9801+sIIqjq4P+8t4rdbieS8GyYjN6IWJXvRKFL6mmA7I 14enzShfPGx9ENnjxj20zi3TpX11jtpn9PkdALaD0L6HkGU/C+xNtK03NRw04rvn 0jKwHoybms7mkS7FkThdApK+Fv7QLr15SKdFXf3LLqjukl59F91ZR++vyaLMhcEI dXqLX/6D+3LWV3EvihuxSaC/0U8c7zRB2Jq1VCmuBhD5ojryTiWj2urrJ3EVIee9 tMQFrQjOUXJd/mkiSjYlEw6xlxg8UX1AAW/Wc82MTnzZwZ2HqJZhywNev8NTWcD9 zQqGsKGLCRuYvmlMWDPQN8mYq7GkFA== =4M2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-914hnwrDdYSM+rrpzrNT--