Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

[Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>]

Alexe Stefan wrote:
>
> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out
> where I'm wrong.
> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from users.
> If we(the users) only respond to issues that individually impact us,
> choice will be taken away from everyone eventually(unless it's the
> "right" choice as agreed by Lennart & co). It is called "divide and
> conquer".
> I do not hate gentoo. I want to see it offer as much choice as
> possible, not restrict it.
> I had to bear with systemd for some time before going to gentoo. I
> don't want that to happen again.
>
>

I'm a eudev user.  I don't like systemd either.  I'm actually having to
deal with it for the first time after installing Ubuntu for a NAS box on
a under powered rig with not a lot of memory.  I can honestly say, I
don't like systemd from experience.  I'm one who will likely have to
switch to udev even tho I don't care too.  While I'm not excited about
it, given the lack of coders wanting to keep it alive, I'll just have to
switch.  I may be losing a choice but hey, at least I had one that other
distros never had.  Some distros switched with no alternative long ago. 

If I, someone who hates change, can change, I'm not sure why you can't
accept that eudev just may have reached its end of life on Gentoo.  I
missed the news item a year or so ago.  I had no idea it was not being
maintained on Gentoo.  This sort of hit me all at once, most likely the
same as you.  Unless someone steps up in the next week or so, I'll be
switching.  At the least, I'm grateful to have OpenRC.  Don't get me
started on trying to figure out how to restart a service on Ubuntu.  As
bad as all the compiling is, Gentoo is a walk in the park.  Restart a
service, /etc/init.d/<start typing and hit tab twice when you think you
are close>.  Try that in Ubuntu.  Forget a hair cut this month.  I'm
doing good to have hair.  :@  Let's see what happens and if eudev dies,
let's accept it and be grateful for the time we did have a choice, while
some kinks got worked out of systemd udev at least. 

To the other devs reading this thread still.  Thanks much from a 20 year
user of Gentoo.  It was bumpy at first but it sure has come a
LOOOOOOOONG ways.  I can't say enough about how much emerge has improved
and how dependencies are resolved with ease for us users.  The work on
the emerge command and ebuilds has improved a LOT.  I still wish the
error output was more friendly but hey, at least there is a whole lot
less of it.  :-D 

Let's deal with what is in front of us.  Thanks again to the devs. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

I'm going back to my hole now.  <me hides>