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* [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group
@ 2019-09-21  7:17 Michał Górny
  2019-09-21 19:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
  2019-09-25  6:19 ` Michał Górny
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michał Górny @ 2019-09-21  7:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: licenses

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Hi,

We currently have @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group that somewhat
concerns RESTRICT=bindist.  I think it'd be reasonable to introduce
a matching group concerning RESTRICT=mirror.

My proposition would be to add @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE group with
the following rules:

- MUST permit redistribution of unmodified distfiles

- MUST NOT require explicit approval (No items from @EULA)

- MAY prohibit redistributing modified distfiles

- MAY restrict the cost of redistribution


Rationale: the main idea is to aid checking for missing
RESTRICT="mirror".  The rules are based on current bindist group but are
more relaxed given the specific use case of our mirrors.  Most notably:

1. It permits licenses that prohibit redistributing modified distfiles. 
In this case, due diligence is required from developers.  If this is
prohibited, they may only add original upstream sources to SRC_URI.

2. It permits restrictions on cost of redistribution, as some upstreams
prohibit selling their products.  While this renders them non-free, it
shouldn't be a problem for our mirrors since we don't expect to sell
stuff there ;-).

Note that while technically there could be a problem with selling, say,
Gentoo CDs with distfiles included, RESTRICT=mirror doesn't cover this
case anyway.


WDYT?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group
  2019-09-21  7:17 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group Michał Górny
@ 2019-09-21 19:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
  2019-09-21 20:00   ` Michał Górny
  2019-09-25  6:19 ` Michał Górny
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2019-09-21 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Michał Górny; +Cc: gentoo-dev, licenses

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>>>>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, Michał Górny wrote:

> We currently have @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group that somewhat
> concerns RESTRICT=bindist.  I think it'd be reasonable to introduce
> a matching group concerning RESTRICT=mirror.

This would be a superset of @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE, I suppose? Or do we
have examples where sources are mirror restricted, but binaries built
from them can be distributed (and sold)?

Ulrich

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group
  2019-09-21 19:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2019-09-21 20:00   ` Michał Górny
  2019-09-21 20:37     ` Ulrich Mueller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michał Górny @ 2019-09-21 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: licenses

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On Sat, 2019-09-21 at 21:27 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, Michał Górny wrote:
> > We currently have @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group that somewhat
> > concerns RESTRICT=bindist.  I think it'd be reasonable to introduce
> > a matching group concerning RESTRICT=mirror.
> 
> This would be a superset of @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE, I suppose? Or do we
> have examples where sources are mirror restricted, but binaries built
> from them can be distributed (and sold)?
> 

That's my initial thought as well but I'm going to check them, just in
case.  That is, unless the proposal is rejected.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group
  2019-09-21 20:00   ` Michał Górny
@ 2019-09-21 20:37     ` Ulrich Mueller
  2019-09-21 20:57       ` Michał Górny
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2019-09-21 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Michał Górny; +Cc: gentoo-dev, licenses

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>>>>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, Michał Górny wrote:

> That's my initial thought as well but I'm going to check them, just in
> case.  That is, unless the proposal is rejected.

Please check this, before we are going to decide on it.

Ulrich

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group
  2019-09-21 20:37     ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2019-09-21 20:57       ` Michał Górny
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michał Górny @ 2019-09-21 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: licenses

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On Sat, 2019-09-21 at 22:37 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, Michał Górny wrote:
> > That's my initial thought as well but I'm going to check them, just in
> > case.  That is, unless the proposal is rejected.
> 
> Please check this, before we are going to decide on it.
> 

Verified.  All licenses permit source redistribution.  I'm not sure if
SmartLabs really permit binary redist like we claim right now but it
permits distributing 'exact copies'.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group
  2019-09-21  7:17 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group Michał Górny
  2019-09-21 19:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2019-09-25  6:19 ` Michał Górny
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michał Górny @ 2019-09-25  6:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: licenses

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On Sat, 2019-09-21 at 09:17 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We currently have @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE license group that somewhat
> concerns RESTRICT=bindist.  I think it'd be reasonable to introduce
> a matching group concerning RESTRICT=mirror.
> 
> My proposition would be to add @DISTFILE-REDISTRIBUTABLE group with
> the following rules:
> 
> - MUST permit redistribution of unmodified distfiles
> 
> - MUST NOT require explicit approval (No items from @EULA)

After some further research, it turns out we have some @EULAs that
permit redistributing unmodified sources.  Maybe we should drop this
item then.  Or do we want to flag them mirror-restricted anyway?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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