From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-37681-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MmmmR-0002Tt-Bx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:58:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50215E08F4; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPaqm1.telefonica.net (impaqm1.telefonica.net [213.4.129.21]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41AFE08F4 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPmailhost5.adm.correo ([10.20.102.126]) by IMPaqm1.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id gAuA1c0072jdgqJ01Ay1Bx; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:58:01 +0200 Received: from jesgue.homelinux.org ([78.136.66.163]) by IMPmailhost5.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id gAy01c0013XLmEe1lAy1XF; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:58:01 +0200 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="i92guboj.terra.es" |auth_email="i92guboj@terra.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitera01" Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:57:59 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_Guerrero?= <i92guboj@terra.es> To: <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future In-Reply-To: <4AACCDBF.5020207@gentoo.org> References: <4AAAD714.1010107@hartwork.org> <4b0462b4d4cc0f26a7b45e6787d51890@localhost> <4AACCDBF.5020207@gentoo.org> Message-ID: <99cec4046b6897dbff2e733ee0ab8dab@localhost> X-Sender: i92guboj@terra.es User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d3a7d255-91ac-440d-809d-ff6ba69bce39 X-Archives-Hash: a1e53f837c2507c65b70d0e50428342f On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:47:27 -0400, Richard Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote: > Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero wrote: >>=20 >> Most Gentoo users will have no problem to use overlays as they need >> them. If we had more developers we could as maintain more packages, >> as simple as that. >>=20 >=20 > I actually tend to agree with this position, It's not something to agree or disagree. There aren't developers to maintain all the software under the sun, period. > however to use overlays as=20 > a valid solution for end-users we need to do more to support them.=20 Yeah, devs for that as well. > Right now it is at least a little painful to get set up with an overlay= . No, it's a matter of using layman -a <whatever> > There also isn't really any official place to vet overlays, and there= =20 > isn't any official source for overlays that aren't maintained by gentoo= . >=20 > Sure, overlays.g.o has tons of overlays - but which ones are=20 > mostly-stable, and which ones are intended to break systems? What is=20 > the QA policy for each overlay? If I'm an end-user not interested in=20 > breaking my system, what overlays are safe for me to use? There's no policy. Just like unofficial repos for any other distro. We can't control that. It's outside Gentoo. While I agree that having more packages and being more up to date is a good thing, I can never agree that we should sacrifice Gentoo for that. You want stability for what I see on your answer, well, that's what you have. I don't think we can do any more with the number of developers we have right now unless we start dumping blindingly and without any check every ebuild that we get across. --=20 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero