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From: Florian Schmaus <flow@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/4] readme.gentoo-r1.eclass: display readme if content changed (or fresh install)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 19:48:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98918553-beee-4761-88bd-d1a4c2184ada@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u4jabe2ct@gentoo.org>


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On 02/06/2024 18.28, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2024, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> 
>> Per the commit message, the old readme and the new readme can have the
>> same contents, but be compressed by different compressors on the live
>> system vs the image, and/or a compressor with unstable algorithms,
>> and/or one that isn't installed at the time of merging.
> 
>> Given you've explicitly rejected disabling compression, I don't quite
>> see how you can have your cake and eat it too.
> 
> How is installing another file (4 KiB on many file systems) an
> improvement over disabling compression for README.gentoo itself?

The hash file's size is constant, unlike README.gentoo, which even could 
theoretically be bigger than 4 KiB.  And, as you indicated, some 
filesystems will even inline the 4-bytes into the inode.

But actually, I would rather simply exclude README.gentoo from 
decompression. This would make the eclass simpler. Many (most?) 
README.gentoo files are below 4 KiB uncompressed, hence the same 
argument could be made that compressing those files does not buy us much 
usable disk space.

However, you argued against using "docompress -x" in your mail from 
2024-10-01.

Frankly, I don't care much. But I am a little bit tired of reading the 
same elog output over and over again. Nearly daily I go through all elog 
messages on my machines, and a large fraction is just repetitive, mainly 
caused by readme.gentoo-r1.eclass (and others who should be using 
readme.gentoo-r1.eclass but do not).

I have a hard time not limiting myself to ewarn and higher messages. 
Quite likely other Gentoo users are in the same situation. 
Unfortunately, it seems likely that I would then miss valuable information.

Therefore we should take action. Which is either not showing 
GENTOO.readme upon updates *or* only showing it only if it changes when 
updating a package.

The latter is what this patchset tries to achieve.

- Flow

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-02 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-06 17:01 [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/1] [RFC] greadme.eclass Florian Schmaus
2024-01-06 17:01 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] greadme.eclass: new eclass Florian Schmaus
2024-01-06 17:21 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/1] [RFC] greadme.eclass Michał Górny
2024-01-09  8:30   ` Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09  8:39     ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] greadme.eclass: new eclass Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09  8:39       ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] add UNPACKER_NO_BANNER variable Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09  8:45         ` [gentoo-dev] " Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09  8:39       ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] greadme.eclass: set UNPACKER_NO_BANNER Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09 11:23       ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] greadme.eclass: new eclass David Seifert
2024-01-09 11:30         ` Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 13:57       ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Improve readme.gentoo-r1.eclass Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 13:57         ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/4] readme.gentoo-r1.eclass: display readme if content changed (or fresh install) Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 15:34           ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-02 15:48             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-06-02 16:28               ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-02 17:48                 ` Florian Schmaus [this message]
2024-06-02 17:51                 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-06-02 18:24                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-04 15:15                     ` Florian Schmaus
2024-06-04 17:45                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-04 18:28                         ` Florian Schmaus
2024-06-04 18:33                           ` Eli Schwartz
2024-06-04 18:40                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-04 18:37                         ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-06-04 18:59                           ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-06-02 16:16             ` Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 13:57         ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/4] readme.gentoo-r1.eclass: use _GREADME_TMP_FILE in existing code Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 13:57         ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/4] readme.gentoo-r1.eclass: add readme.gentoo_stdin() Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 13:57         ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 4/4] readme.gentoo-r1.eclass: add readme.gentoo_file() Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 15:25         ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Improve readme.gentoo-r1.eclass Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-02 16:12           ` Florian Schmaus
2024-06-02 16:40             ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-06-02 17:34               ` Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09  9:59     ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/1] [RFC] greadme.eclass Michał Górny
2024-01-09 10:39       ` Florian Schmaus
2024-01-09 10:43         ` Michał Górny
2024-01-09 10:47           ` Florian Schmaus
2024-01-10 11:04 ` Sam James
2024-01-10 13:23   ` Florian Schmaus
2024-01-10 13:58     ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-01-10 14:30       ` Florian Schmaus
2024-01-10 15:10         ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-01-10 15:54           ` Florian Schmaus

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