From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FRmjM-0004vu-Rg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k378s4eh003625; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:54:04 GMT Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.186]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k378pwcC013435 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:51:59 GMT Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m19so217613nfc for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZAj3EaJy9/W+FkxXYtLA5n/ov01/5NPiJ/ATfMKEedrdA4IWv0RDK6DWXNSyC0HFFglVpi0xg1Sdq9R/wK8qGak5I6cF9N0GggEdcmURQHwjXcnvYYepzTanUFEqfGBXED7rIMbHS5ZTb1+oRg3eeje18R0dFBwbhhNHuEPlwpE= Received: by 10.48.14.8 with SMTP id 8mr1297256nfn; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.15.13 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9445dc2b0604070151t68e184fdo3601938bb52d0871@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0100 From: "Christopher O'Neill" <chris.oneill@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations In-Reply-To: <1144377010.5485.82.camel@gaspode> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1144377010.5485.82.camel@gaspode> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k378pwcC013435 X-Archives-Salt: 7e0db843-7427-49c6-87aa-9e2cd1872f57 X-Archives-Hash: 598110178b20d07e8c29b679e231bcd5 As a Gentoo user, one thing that I'd very much like to see is improved communication between the dev teams and the users. At the moment it feels pretty much like I am in the dark as regarding to how we are progressing on certain things. Let me pick some examples: . A few days ago someone posted on the dev list asking about KDE3.5.x and it's current masked status. As a KDE user myself I was also interested in the answer to his question, but to my dismay his first response was less than helpful! Although he did eventually get a satisfactory response, wouldn't it have been better if he hadn't had to ask at all? I'm sure many more people are wondering the same and probably aren't subscribed to this list. . I notice certain other popular distros are now running GCC4 (and have been for some time), yet we are still running 3.4.6 (on ~x86). I know it's a lot of work ensuring that all packages compile properly with GCC4 and that there are no introduced bugs, but I have no idea how we are progressing on this - and wouldn't even like to ask for fear of asking in the wrong place.. . How's portage 2.1 getting along? I notice it gets frequent updates. I am not asking for answers for those questions, they are merely examples (I could think of many more, so please don't single these out). The point I am making is how we (the users) are in the dark on how Gentoo is progressing. This is the main reason I have subscribed to this mailing list (as well as Gentoo-Users) in an attempt to keep track of what's happening, but without much success). Ideally, what I'd like is for the various dev teams to compile a weekly status report, which could then be compiled into the weekly newsletter (which currently seems to be lacking much useful information). It would be great if we (the users) could find out what's going on behind the scenes of our favourite distribution. Anyway Christel, I hope this is the sort of response you are looking for. -- Chris -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list