From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6rie-0005qE-VW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:44:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB9D7E043A; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPaqm3.telefonica.net (impaqm3.telefonica.net [213.4.129.18]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0EDE043A for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPmailhost3.adm.correo ([10.20.102.124]) by IMPaqm3.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id ts0e1b0252h2L9m3Pvgy6F; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:40:58 +0200 Received: from jesgue.homelinux.org ([78.136.66.163]) by IMPmailhost3.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id tvgx1b0053XLmEe1jvgxmQ; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:40:58 +0200 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="i92guboj.terra.es" |auth_email="i92guboj@terra.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitera01" Received: from 192.168.0.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user i92guboj) by jesgue.homelinux.org with HTTP; Wed, 20 May 2009 21:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: <93c27fc2fb82b3b4b9e2370c8892ba1a.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <4A145796.3080801@gentoo.org> References: <4A145796.3080801@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:41:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Guerrero?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e1e7e131-6ae8-4fc8-b89e-3fabb60b9206 X-Archives-Hash: 311dbd0a706c752f061aa72b77bfb18a On Wed, May 20, 2009 21:18, Josh Saddler wrote: > However, for the purposes of an actual project, I believe it's > considered essential that we own the infrastructure that project is hos= ted > on. All of our other projects (to my knowledge) are hosted on our own > infrastructure. > > If we cannot properly administer a Gentoo resource, i.e. if we have to > go through unaffiliated intermediaries, then it should not be an offici= al > Gentoo project. I don't believe having a spot in /proj/ > designates a project as "official"; I think the actual working area nee= ds > to be Gentoo-owned. > > That being said, you and others are free to do the whole LQ and other > forums help; more power to you. But as I said, I don't think it should = be > an official TLP (or subproject) as we do not have proper supervision of > external resources. Good point. However it all depends on the lenses you look it through. gse is meant to be more like devrel or userrel. We are not going to be moderating those forums, and we don't have any authority there at all. This foundation is needed as a way to link the Gentoo community with another support communities where people will eventually seek support about Gentoo. How else could we establish an official relationship with other external projects? Of course the thing has to get external at some point. The other option is to encapsulate and live isolated from the rest of the reality. What we offer is that and support, and the only infrastructure is the project itself and their members. It's very abstract, I know, but such is the nature of the project. You don't have to go thru intermediaries either. The project is me and the rest of volunteers, and it exists independently of LQ or any other concrete place. LQ is just a particular case where we can be useful. --=20 Jes=FAs Guerrero